Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Ronald Hillman

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    And you do not know if a god exists, so using your logic, no one knows!

    Just as you do not know if the scripture you quote is worth the pixels on the screen!
     
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    What's also so silly is anyone who challenges these silly attempts, they are being just as silly themselves without even realizing it.

    So what have we learned here? We've learned that even people who claim they have a modest amount of education or a background in science are not immune in being silly...lol

    gift sorry to interrupt you here but you are being silly.

    Are you done spouting off silliness?...lol
     
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    A fine example of Christianity, plagiarism, insults and avoiding the question!
     
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    You believe in God yet you deny the Great Flood of Noah story of ever happening. So let's see you believe in God but when He tells us the true tale of the Great Flood of

    Noah story you don't believe Him...are you confused about your belief in God?

    Because it's obvious you are calling Him a liar regarding the Great Flood of Noah.
     
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    You don't understand Science - I get it - or measurement - or dating.. and I am OK with that :)

    For me personally - I know the Earth is much older than 5000 years old - hundreds of millions years old - but does it matter if it is 2.1 or 2.2 Billion years to the creation conversation .. not one year.

    and 2) That the Claim "Only the Creator Knows" can not be shown to be True - and so this is a guess .. not a fact. Perhaps the Creator told a few of his buddies or his kin .. how old the earth was ...

    but what matter this to Creationism .. other than Zero - where belief in literalism is the problem - and lack of understanding of perspective or context.

    Your posts in particular suffer from "Perspective" issues. You want to fit the OT into your created perspective -- and the NT for that matter, rather than try to understand the Perspective of the people of the that time period.

    and this is normal .. but not logical.
     
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    This is interesting .. count the number of times you used the word "Silly" in the above post (6)

    Now - count the times you stated what was silly and why (0)

    The sum total of your post is then you twirling around in a circle - with hands over ears crying out "Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly Silly"

    and a backwards attempt at demonization of the messenger.

    Thanks for playing though - That said we would however appreciate it if you might make an effort to justify at least something of what you say in future posts
     
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    Why are you running from our most recent post ? - going back to old posts - cherry picking out lines .. and then making some comment ..completely unrelated to what we were previously discussing.

    This is a very interesting and elaborate thought avoidance technique - just jump back to previous conversations - some perhaps weeks ago .. cherry picking out sentences and yammering on like that other and most recent conversation - which went on for several posts - completely does not exist.

    Well done ! .. quite impressive :toilet::tp::thumbsdown: - self deception.

    My only question though .. is whether this was something instilled in you - or if you came up with this technique all on your own.
     
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    I'm saying if one believes in God, then they must have faith and trust in Him. His Best Selling Book Of All-Time the Holy Bible is His revelation to us and so if you believe in Him that entails believing in everything He has told us in His Holy Bible.

    You're saying to believe in the Great Flood of Noah one has to be stupid, that's the equivalent of you telling God that His true tale of the Great Flood of Noah was a stupid story that's unbelievable.

    I believe it would be best for you to apologize to God and ask Him for forgiveness for your stupidity in calling His true tale for only stupid people to believe in. You are mocking/blaspheming God and aren't even aware of it.

    God has given us the free will to disobey Him, blaspheme Him and yes even mock Him. But we are warned in Galatians 6:7 that God will not always be mocked.

    We Read in Scripture:

    7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. Galatians 6:7 ESV
     
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    You are the one who mocks God - and is deceived - desperate to avoid the "Sons of God" conversation. So you cherry pick lines from completely different conversations -in an attempt to demonize the messenger ..

    A slick avoidance tactic -

    but about Noah - it is you that blasphemes God - tying him to a particular version of a particular story .. calling someone a heretic and blasphemer for disagreeing with your perspective - on that story.

    See how you try to twist things around - projecting your failures onto others - and refusing correction .. perhaps a read of Proverbs might do well your soul.
     
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    God admits people who believes in Him, people who have asked for forgiveness of their sins, people who have accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior, these are the people who will be saved and will spend eternity with Him in heaven.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    16 "For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NLT

    I have no idea where you got the stupid notion that I claimed God only admits stupid people. But I can tell you this, He won't accept fools who believe He doesn't exist.

    We Read in Scripture:

    1 Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good! Psalm 53:1 NLT
     
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    Interesting post - for a change - has nothing to do with the convo you are avoiding .. but nice passage from Psalms.

    Regurgitating 3:16 like you have a free pass - through judgement is nice - majority of Christianity rejects sola fide - but your depth of knowledge - having one passage against the whole story of Christianity for the up until 100 AD.

    Thank you for reminding me of this doctrine of Luther - who also wrote the famous "On the Jews and Their Lies"

    but then you contradict your own doctrine - claiming asking for forgiveness is also a requirement - That's not Sola Fide Mate .. "Salvation by Faith Alone" get it .. got it .. good.

    Speaking of heaven though - since you seem to know a few things about it - and have the free pass - not having to pass through judgement - What song do you think will be playing when you pass through the pearly gates ?
     
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    It's beyond me how a person can say they believe in Almighty God The Creator then doubt/reject a revelation He told us about in the very first book of His Best Selling Book Of All-Time.

    Almighty God The Creator is Omnipotent, which means He is All-Powerful. He created the universe, all matter, all living beings, everything that exists is because He brought it into existence.

    So why would it be so hard to believe that the Great Flood of Noah was a real life historical event. If God told us Noah and his family members of 7 others along with 2 of every kind of animal was aboard a boat (Ark) that Noah built then why is so difficult for a believer in God to believe what He told us.

    You cannot cherry pick what you like and dislike in the Holy Bible. You either believe all Scripture or non of it and become like one of those unbelievers.

    To answer your question regarding the animals, the animals came to Noah, Noah didn't have to round them up, Scripture tells us this.

    We Read in Scripture:

    19 Bring a pair of every kind of animal—a male and a female—into the boat with you to keep them alive during the flood. 20 Pairs of every kind of bird, and every kind of animal, and every kind of small animal that scurries along the ground, will come to you to be kept alive. 21 And be sure to take on board enough food for your family and for all the animals.” Genesis 6:19-21 NLT

    Now to help enlighten you further read the article below in its entirety, then maybe it will open your eyes and mind to not be so skeptical that the Great Flood of Noah was a real life historical event as depicted in the first book of God's Best Selling Book Of All-Time! There are also many other sites you could google and read what they have to say about the Great Flood of Noah.

    https://www.godisreal.today/evidence-of-the-flood/#:~:text=Evidence for the%
     
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    Morning and Blessings

    Mitt, this debate reminds me of a bunch of sophomores in high school arguing with a PhD candidate, I admire your patience, but don't let them distract you from more fruitful fields.
    Many mistake an education and intelligence for wisdom, which they lack.
     
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    This is obscene logical fallacy - Just because God is One - does not mean he wrote the Baghavad Gita .. or the Quran.

    The question is not if God could .. the question is whether or not God Really did give is the stories of creation from the various cultures in the world -

    Then .. if we decide ..OK .. these stories come from God - but each are slightly different .. how do we figure out which is the right one ?

    Or do we say ... all are from God .. Islam - Judaism - Buddhism - Hindooism .. all of these religious text are from God.

    Now while this is true on a Macro level - so you are completely hooped - just on that basis. It is also True on a Micro level.

    Suppose was say " The Bible" is the only one that is from God ... OK ... same problem .. which one .. which version ? - never mind which interpretation ..

    What's that passage .. what good be it to gain the whole world .... or better yet .. What's the point of robbery when nothing is worth taking ?
     
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    Hi Todd! Nice to see you drop by my friend! Thanks for the sage advice and compliment. I whole heartedly agree with your last statement...no doubt!

    Hey Todd you are always welcome to come to this thread and chime in and join the conversation. My good friend gfm does it and I like what he has to offer. Right now I'm still

    responding to questions and comments on Part 10 of these threads and so when someone posts something on this thread you are more than welcomed to chime in. I can't

    work like a machine 24/7...lol Matter of fact all my sisters and brothers of the faith are welcome here to chime in and join the conversation.

    Ok my friend again nice to see you, take care and God Bless!
     
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    I highlighted your insensitive remark you made below where you were quoted saying:

    This quote of yours clearly indicates that you implied that gays are part of the solution to population growth because they were dying off at a high rate during the initial AIDS epidemic and you suggested I thank them for doing their part to help out in slowing down population growth.

    Well obviously if they were dying off at a high rate. You showed no empathy for their plight by making that snide/disparaging remark.
     
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    Why would you want to exist for one million trillion years?
     
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    Why are you going through old posts - cherry picking out sentences - rather than responding to todays posts.

    Are you OK ? .. something really has you riled. and you are blubbering unintelligible nonsense.

    It is not my fault that you find reality "disparaging" - and have to run and hide when reality conflicts with your man made dogma.
     
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    Why would an all powerful being who wants to convey a message on which he intends to judge you, do so by restricting him/her/itself to the limitations of written word in an ancient text? Could such a being not simply make you know what it/he/she wants you to know? Then this being could truly judge you on how you react to this information, rather than punish people who don't believe it to be true, purporting to punish them for not doing as the being wishes as if they did have this information.

    It is truly odd that any being who can do better than written word in communicating would choose written word. Even humans will talk directly to somebody if they can and know that a message passed on by scribes, rewritten and handed down though many hands won't be as good.

    I can only conclude that this being, if it/she/he exists, wishes the confusion and conflict that comes from this choice of poor communication. I can only conclude that this being desires the many opposing interpretations, the holy wars, the apostacy etc. That or there is no such being.

    How's that for a tough question for Christianity? I've never seen this answered without a lot of dodging or personal attacks in response.
     
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    Relax gift...take a chill pill. I going through my threads and answering questions. Man I know I just recently told you not too long ago on this thread that I was far behind in answering questions/comments and of course you forgot about it.

    I'm on pg. 18 of Part 10 and just so happens some of your posts are coming up and so I'm responding to them. Soon your nightmare will be over until I get to other posts you posted on these threads. See below that's the very first post I made on this thread when it was first opened, look at the highlighted areas...that is what I'm doing so again relax...take a chill pill.

     
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    If I were to choose another lifestyle then I would be in a lifestyle that you're currently in...no thanks! I like being in the hetero life style.

    So why haven't you changed? You should not believe the myth that you were born to be a gay. Nobody is born to be gay, or a pedophile, or an adulterer, or one who engages in bestiality...are you understanding this? Oh and nobody is born an atheist. I thought I just throw that in too. It's a choice one makes to engage in those sinful sexual activities.

    Now they have counselors to help you get out of that sinful lifestyle, better yet seek help from God.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

    Effective Prayer

    7 "Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Matthew 7:7-8 NLT

    I have been aware of that. I'm sure you know the reason for that, it's obvious why that is so.
     
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    Fine .. go through old posts and cherry pick out stuff - but, answer the most recent posts first .. Running away from posts by jumping all over the map - is just that .. running away. Further - it is abject idiocy to debate in a situation where one of the participants can not stay on topic.
     
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    Do you understand consent, perhaps when you do, you will understand why lumping gays and adulterers in with pedos and animal ****ers is so disgusting. It is why so many people are turning away from your revolting morals that your brand of religion espouses.
     
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    Well no, they are not friends/buddies. Below are a couple of passages from Scripture that's referring to satan's (devil) fall from heaven.

    We Read in Scripture:

    16 Your rich commerce led you to violence, and you sinned. So I banished you in disgrace from the mountain of God. I expelled you, O mighty guardian, from your place among the stones of fire. 17 Your heart was filled with pride because of all your beauty. Your wisdom was corrupted by your love of splendor. So I threw you to the ground and exposed you to the curious gaze of kings. Ezekiel 28:16-17 NLT

    15 Instead, you will be brought down to the place of the dead, down to its lowest depths. Isaiah 14:15 NLT
     
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    Eternal life is forever, dude... not one million trillion years.
     
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