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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The BIGGEST delusion of all is the erroneous belief that MORE guns will result in LESS crime when the FACTS establish that more guns have resulted in MORE gun crimes.

    If you don't believe me just compare gun ownership to mass shooting statistics.

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  2. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    If gun manufacturers could be held liable for promoting their Gun Culture of Death to the tune of BILLIONS of DOLLARS you can rest assured that they will ONLY make and SELL guns to the PUBLIC that have AUTOMATIC TRIGGER LOCKS that can only be DEACTIVATED by the legitimate owner who will be REQUIRED to carry FULL INSURANCE against any harm caused by their gun.

    Yes, they will RECALL all of their EXISTING firearms for RETROFITTING and REQUIRE that any legitimate owner who REFUSES to sign an INDEMNIFICATION of the manufacturer and assumption of 100% of all risk by the OWNER instead,
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    FALSE equivalence logical FALLACY!

    The SOLE purpose of cars is NOT to kill people.
     
  4. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im refusing the restriction because its unnecessary and harmful. Im just also pointing out that its part of an obvious long term agenda.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nor guns. None of mine have ever killed people. Am I misusing them or what?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did she shriek and run from cops? Im seriously curious.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Not sure, I don't think her and I ever encountered any cops while we were together.
     
  8. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    You are disingenuously confusing PURPOSE with OWNERSHIP.

    OWNING a LETHAL weapon does NOT alter the lethal PURPOSE of the weapon.
     
  9. ECA

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    You’re confused. He was giving his opinion on what he prefers. He prefers open carry to concealed carry because he prefers to know who’s armed. He in no way is demanding people to open carry. Try to keep up. It’s getting tiresome to have to constantly explain things to you over and over and over.
     
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  10. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Blah blah blaa.
     
  11. mtlhdtodd

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    Well, your common sense didn't age well. Why end gun shows? How high is high capacity? 15 to 30 rounds is standard for most as originaly designed depending on the gun. Do you hold Ford accountable for drunk drivers? There is no such thing as an assault weapon. It's a made up term by a liberal moron that knows squat about guns. I live with my wife only so my locked and alarmed front door is all the secure storage I should require. How many other rights should we have waiting periods for in order to exercise them? I have passed many background checks including security clearance ones. So how much more enhanced does it have to be?

    In the end it's all bovine scat designed to make exercising this right as cumbersome and as expensive as possible in order to dissuade it from being exercised
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    That would be manufacturers, follow along...
     
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    I don't know but many people do fear the gun itself. There is no benefit to carrying it openly. Why not avoid the attention?
     
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    I'm gonna guess because of mass shootings.
    Because they don't know the person they are standing next to in line at the grocery store is conceal carrying.
     
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    why can't you? full auto firearms are not illegal or banned. They are quite restricted, like suppressors and short barreled rifles, and are the exact same class 3 process as those
     
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    most of this is unconstitutional
     
  18. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Museums, film prop rentals, target ranges, game hunters and I all disagree with you. What the purpose of an object was intended for is immaterial to the purpose which I find it useful for once its mine. The purpose of a previous owner doesn't matter at all to me.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Summer. 100 degress and 99% humidity- for one example.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But they do know anyone could be, and statistically speaking a couple out of every hundred are. Yet I've never heard of anyone limiting their exposure to the public out of a fear of encountering a concealed weapon carrier.
     
  21. ECA

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    You're assuming the avg person know or even cares to know how many people statistically carry. I would venture to guess, people who don't carry aren't afraid of their own shadow and therefore don't worry themselves about the unknown. It's odd you think people are supposed to walk around looking at everyone worrying if any of them are carrying.
     
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    I don't think that. I also don't think its rational to fear someone who has a gun more than someone who might have a gun.

    With the exeption of children and people with revealing clothing, I assume everyone may be armed.
     
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    So, you don't think, again, based on the countless mass shootings in schools, malls, movie theater, concert, places of work, church, etc, why there would be people who fear someone with a gun? Really? You don't understand at all?

    Why do you believe there are people who fear someone who MIGHT have a gun?
     
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    Again, because theres no difference between someone carrying a visible weapon and someone carrying a concealed weapon, which could be anyone. Which makes the fear irrational. Im not saying ppl with irrational fears are bad or wrong, but its not a legit excuse to make laws to protect them from their phobias. Some ppl are afraid of dogs. But its up to themselves to avoid dogs, not the govt to make everyone else keep their dogs hidden.
     
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    It's a strawman non gun users parrot. Guns have a multitude of possible uses.
    By golly, a many a non lethal round is oft fired!
     

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