Stockholm Endures 100% Spike in Covid Cases as Third Wave Hits

Calm down. The government made some very bad decisions in 2020, but its in the past now.

 

At this point, I think they're going to have to manage it.
Since it's obvious the problem isn't going to go away with a temporary total shutdown.
That might mean more restrictions in the big city areas.

The economy in other places (outside the big cities) can only take so much. And the effect on increase in suicides has probably been about the same as the number of lives saved.

 

People in Australia advocated that we follow the 'Swedish model'. Fortnuately the ywere ignored.

Sweden: 10 million people; 680,000 cases; 12,977 deaths; 1280 deaths per million.

Australia: 25 million people; 29,000 cases; 909 deaths; 35 deaths per million.

Lesson: morons, ideologues, liars & conspiracy theorists should be ignored at any time, but especially during a global pandemic that spreads easily and kills millions of people. Economies recover. Dead people do not.

 

Sweden admitted fairly early on that they didn't do well protecting the elderly. 50% of their deaths were in nursing homes and another 25% were people in elder care in their homes. Having 75% of their deaths being the very frail and elderly is the only reason their numbers appear to be out of line with some other countries.

They are still on the low end of severity compared to other countries.





https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/sweden/

 

75% of deaths in all countries were of "very frail and elderly"

And now let's compare Sweden with their adjacent neighbours with similar demographics:

Sweden: deaths per million: 1280
Norway: deaths per million: 116
Finland: deaths per million:138

Your post is completely debunked

 

NJ and NY are the worst on earth behind only Gibraltar. Sweden is far better than the UK penitentiary at 1821 deaths per million.

Masks don't stop viruses. Closing schools and businesses doesn't stop viruses. Everything expert socialists closed was for nothing.

Experts are expert chiefly in convincing others they're experts.

 

I think most people know that Codid-19 hits the elderly the hardest, and same is true in every country, not just Sweden.

The best comparison are the next door neighbors, Norway and Finland. Sweden had 10 more deaths than them, so they do not compare well at all. Their argument was to allow the virus to run wild, so that the population would gain herd immunity. Then they were brought back to reality when the 2nd wave hit them, and now they are seeing a 3rd wave. It was a gamble which did not work.

 

It doesn't really matter if you extend the lives of elderly while lockdowns kill other people by preventing normal access to health care, have skyrocketing suicides and drug overdoses, or cripple the psychological development of children. That just trades out "who dies" and "who gets injured/damaged in the longer term".

Policy success or failure should be judged on the entire effect on society in terms of overall excess mortality from all causes. In that regard, Sweden's holistic approach is looking pretty good right now.




https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sweden-avoided-covid-19-lockdown-150100653.html

 

They made a big mistake, and they admit it (your article confirms this). I am not sure why some people in US promote the Swedish model, when even the Swedes admit it was a mistake. You should lean not only from your own mistakes, but also from mistakes made by others.

 

If some Swedes said that, others disagree. They're sorta like Americans in that respect.

 

Who disagrees? They lost 10 times the people compared to their next door neighbors. Its not a matter popular opinion.

 

Probably the ones who agree with LoneStarGal's last post. We should make a few calls. Do you know anyone in Sweden?

Here we are, two Americans who disagree. Do you think Swedes are immune to conflicting opinions?

 

The death of an old man is never a tragedy.

As everybody says at a funeral, "he's in a better place now."

 

The only mistake they admitted to was not realizing early on that they needed far more protection of the elderly in nursing homes and in elderly at-home care. That's 75% of the death statistics, much higher than most other countries.

So, yes, there was a lesson well-learned there.

 

Post a "balanced" article which actually describes both the good and the bad, and watch partisans only cherry pick the "bad" paragraphs. LOL

 

Yes, I know people in Sweden. The Swedish officials, and even the king admit it was a mistake, which they will not repeat. That is what I meant, not that every single Swede agrees with it.

 

One person says 'blab blabber blather,' and that means an entire nation says it. ???

 

The Swedish government treats its citizens like adults.

The US, UK, French, German and other governments treat their citizens like children.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

As for the OP article, I see deaths on a steady decline since mid January. The king spoke on Dec. 17th. Things looked bad. The curve flattened and fell since then.
If they're seeing a rise in cases as the death rate approaches zero, they're probably testing more, just like Americans. But, it went from 2,700 to near 4,000 in 3 weeks, not 100%.

It looks like that recent 34 death day was adjusted, spread out over the previous days since I last looked at the graph.

 

Yes, but the thing is.....they say that at everyone's funeral. It would be rude to suggest the deceased is in hell.

 

You are not required to believe them. Maybe they lied in order to make themselves look bad. Swedish thing maybe.......

 

Some people don't get a funeral.

It's likely that hell is here on earth. Whether it is or not, it is a construct of religious psychobabble.

 

At least the decision is still left up to individual state governors in the U.S. and not blanketed under some tyrannical authoritarian regime in Washington D.C.

 

You're the one who brought up "he's in a better place now", as a justification to Sweden's massive death toll.