Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R,NC)should be held to same standards as Cuomo.

Sure, investigate them both. :shrug: No brainer.

Question though...which was it? Sexual advances? Or sexual abuse? There's a difference. A sexual advance can simply be asking someone to have sex. Sexual abuse would involve something far more serious.

 

The charges being made against Cawthorn were apparently made during the campaign when he ran for office and ignored by the voting public.The charges currently being made against Ronny Jackson are the first I had heard of them this week, which he is vehemently denying today.

 

Those women were and are free to file any charges they so choose and if they have a case I urge them to do so and I never heard the GOP saying otherwise. Where are they?? And they did drop support for Roy Moore after the Dems hatched their little plan to smear him and who didn't have much support to begin with who only got the nomination because the guy he was running against was tied up in the Governors scandal. Why do you think Moore lost the election to a Democrat?

Now back to your attempt to compare Cuomo's sending all those seniors with COVID back to the nursing homes killing thousands, and now the assertions he sexually assaulted and harassed SUBORDINATE employees to a college kid taking girls for a ride in his hot rod is the height of absurdity and desperation on your part.

 

Interesting...the more women coming out with accusations against....democrat or republican "offenders" the less respect i have for my sisters. The "me too" moment hasn't helped the woman's cause in my opinion. It like....oh yeah...here's another hapless victim (wanting money)

 

The NY legislature does not need the Governor's testimony to investigate the charges against him.
The case can and should be made against without his confession.

 

That's not what we were discussing.

We are specifally discussing the difference between how the Democrats deal with one of their own who's been accused of sexual harrasment, assault, or other inappropriate behavior towards women, and how the GOP does the same. Not once did I ask you to orove that there are Republicans who disapprove of Trump. I'm asking, specifically, if any Republican ever called for any investigation of the dozens of accusations that Trump harassed or assaulted them sexually,

Try again.

 

Which ones were government employees working for him over which the Republicans would have some investigative capabilities? Those women are free to file charges and pursue them and that's what I heard the GOP saying then. It would be a matter for the court none of them were government employees and neither was Trump at the time. The investigation into Cuomo would be because he IS and employee of the state government and these are employees of the state.

So your attempts to try and excuse Cuomo by saying the government didn't investigate it and the GOP didn't call for them do so is a swing and a miss.

 

Investigation by whom and on what basis? It's for the women to bring charges in court, if it did happen it happened in the private sector. Cuomo as a government official with government employees. Now of course the Democrats have already said that is OK and doesn't no require removal from office even when the official commits perjury during an investigation into it.

 

It will be in spite of his obstruction.

 

Exactly. The difference in order of magnitude of these behaviors is HUGE. It is actually quite disturbing that someone would equate them.

 

Most of them probably remember the credibility witnesses of the Kavinaugh hearings blow up under cross examination.

I was surprised to learn that sexual harassment is an overwhelmingly an elite Democrat disorder.

 

He will probably try, but Cuomo has little power to block hearings.

 

Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R,NC)should be held to same standards as Cuomo.

Seems reasonable and logical to me.

 

Excuse Cuomo? How am I doing that?

You've proven my point for me. The Democrats are holding Cuomo to account, but where have Republicans been about these?

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

I'll try one more time, hopefully with more clarity for you:

Please cite any Republicans calling for equal amounts of accountability where Trump, and other accused Republicans, are concerned.

 

The women have brought charges in court, but Trump, unlike Clinton, was not charged while still in office. If that changes now that he's gone, well, we'll see, won't we?

My point, one last time, isn't about the guilt or innocence of the various accused, my point is about the gigantic difference between how Democrats treat these issues when one of their own is accused, and how Republicans handle it when one of theirs is accused. If you can't (or won't ) see that difference, then lets stop wasting each other's time.

 

The media and Franken did in Franken.. The DNC had no other choice but to serve him up with a nice remoulade sauce.. But if there had been any way without losing face they'd have shielded him.. Same is happening to Cuomo now, and I'm sure Cawthorn will get a turn on the hot seat too..

 

Why have you seen someone defending Cuomo?? What Franken did could without too much stretch have been interpreted as humor by a comedian, the photograph of him with hands cupped in front of the sleeping female.

 

He could be sued while in office, just ask Bill Clinton.

This is about Cuomo and Cawthorn try to focus. And did you see the interview with one of the women making the allegations? Did you find her credible?

 

So the Cuomo excuse "I was just being funny" is all men who sexually harass in the workplace need?

 

How about mitigate what Cuomo did by this inane comparison to Cawthorn, that better for you? And I have no obligation to show you were a Republican, or a Libertarian, or a Socialist, or a Communist, or an Atheist, or a whatever did anything.

Cuomo's problems are Cuomo's problems and he should be subject to due process and to the law. This is not just he made a pass at a girl in a bar or at a party. All of these women were subordinate employees and that means sexual harassment in the workplace. So stop trying to slough it off on what someone did as private citizens. It does not mitigate what Cuomo is being accused

 

It will be interesting to see if the stain in the dress that the woman who claims Dirty Donald raped her in a New York department store dressing room turns out to be his semen???

 

Trump is being sued:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...round_potential_sexual_misconduct_and_assault

I am not defending Cuomo. I think of him as what I call a "loose dick," meaning one of those men who just can't keep it zipped, and/or can't keep his hands to himself. There is no party divide on that behavior. And yes, I find the women in Cuomo's case to be credible, since they all allege the same pattern of behavior on Cuomo's part,

However, you are still missing my point. Is it deliberate? Between you and @Ddyad, it's like pulling teeth to get either of you to answer what is, to most people with more that two brain cells, a simple question. I'll ask one more time, and if you can't answer, either admit it or just stop harassing me.

Let me put this in terms simple enough for a four year old child: Andrew Cuomo is a Democrat. It is the Democrats who are going after him, demanding accountabiliy and a proper investigation. Please quote Republicans calling for equal accountability for Republicans, like Trump but not limited to Trump.

It is way past put-up-or-shut-up time.

 

Al Franken was a COMEDIAN when he committed the offense he was accused of.

 

No one is suing him for sexual assault and sexual harassment, one person is suing him for defamation because he denied her story in her book, "he called me a liar" that he raped her back in the 1990's. He denies it. I doubt it will go anywhere in the appeals.

So what Trump has done or has not done has nothing to do with Cuomo and does not mitigate anything he may have done.

Let me put it this way not one has to show you Republican saying a darn thing it has nothing to do with Cuomo and what he may or may not have done.

 

ONE LAST TIME: This isn't about Trump specifically. This is about the difference between how Democrats hold their own accountable while Republicans do not.

Now stop, please. I won't ask again.