New Zealand is shaking

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  1. Tejas

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    Educated people already know about the Ring of Fire... but few understand Bible truths.

    Btw... my brother [42 year career scientist at NASA's geophysical ARES lab] is a Christian! Science and Christianity are NOT mutually exclusive!

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    What volcano is that?

    A thousand years with no eruption is an eyeblink to a volcano Geologically if a volcano has ever shown any activity in historic times it is classified as "active"
     
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    Thank heaven, or we'd all be in trouble.

    That's funny! Actually if you watch Dutchsinse, you'll notice that the magna flows that cause earthquakes, start north of New Zealand. Then some of the magma heads towards Japan, Aleutian islands, Alaska and the West coast. Another flow goes towards S. America and another flow towards Indonesia, Iran, Turkey and Europe.

    The quakes will occur wherever there's a crack, and they will recede in magnitude as the magma travels the world, and will eventually end at the mid Atlantic ridge. In the US, fracking has opened quite a few holes, so there are minor quakes - which might not be bad, since it releases pressure before the magna gets to the New Madrid fault.

    What the US has to fear the most right now is the Juan de Fuca fault off Cascadia. That has caused major tsunamis in the past and it's long overdue. Since it's very close to the coast, people will have only a 10 minute warning. What they did is build towers for people to run into. Smart move!
     
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    Do you mean the hi-rise buildings? Most people don't realize how safe these structures are in tsunamis as tidal waves don't have lots of power away from the immediate shore.
     
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    As New Zealand sinks slowly into the ocean remember they never asked you go there. Except in their travel ads of course but you didn't have to take them up on it did you? No you didn't!
     
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    When the amateur Dutchsinse suggested that the quakes on an island off the coast of Africa might be volcanism, the geologists laughed at him since the volcano hadn't erupted for 2 thousand years. Well Dutchsinse was right - as usual, and they were wrong.

    As for Utah, you can read about the rumblings here:


    https://sputniknews.com/science/202...l-volcanic-activity-lurking-below-the-desert/
     
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    New Zealand is going to make a beautiful corral reef one day I can see it. Let's all wish them a nice ride into eternity before they go.
     
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    Many of the tech billionaires bought homes in New Zealand, thinking they'd be safe from civil unrest. Ha! It's not what's on the ground they should have been worried about, but what's going on under the ground.
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    But where will they make all the movies set on someplace other than Earth?
     
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    Dutchsinse is crazier than my Aunt Gertrude after she misses her pills, but he can be entertaining, which is more than I can say for most geologists
     
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    Dutchsinse should be given the Noble Peace Prize for his discoveries and contribution to humanity. Not only is he highly observant, but has the innate ability to connect the dots. Unfortunately though, instead of being lauded for his discoveries, he was hounded by a top geologist who insisted that earthquakes cannot be predicted. He even managed to knock Dutchsinse off Youtube.

    What Dutchsinse is not though, is pleasant to listen to - unless one likes details. So I don't know what you mean about being entertaining. Here are just a few of Dutchsinse' discoveries. There are a lot more.


    1 - Dutchsinse was the first one to say that fracking causes
    earthquakes, and he was blasted for it.
    2 - Dutchsinse was the first one to realize magma flows in certain
    directions and follows certain paths.
    3 - Dutchsinse discovered that magma goes around the craton and flows
    from West to East in the US. If there's a quake in the West, other smaller ones will follow it as the magma heads East.
    4 - Dutchsinse discovered that the fires in the West Coast were
    breaking out around volcanic fields.
    5 - Dutchsinse discovered that hot spots were showing up on satellite
    images before the fires would break out.
    6 - Dutchsinse discovered that in addition to fracking, there are also
    high voltage electric wires in the spots the earthquakes occur.
    There are a lot more. The man's a genius.

     
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    And so unappreciated












     
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    WRONG again!

    The Geophysical MOVEMENT of the tectonic plates is MECHANICAL Engineering. The STRESSES are Mechanical Engineering. The Fault Lines are Points of Failure which are calculations in Mechanical Engineering. The Rock itself falls under Strengths of Materials which is Mechanical Engineering. Geology and Geophysics are closely related to Mechanical Engineering since they are all dealing with the SAME MATH and PHYSICS.

    But thanks for establishing that you do NOT have any relevant Subject Matter Knowledge on this topic.
     
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    Aaaand another inaccurate blog from “whatsupmybutt”
     
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    Good for you, you opted to do some independent research. Here is some more research that is DIRECTLY RELEVANT to the topic and how the MELTING of the ice caps will impact EARTHQUAKES.

    Let us BEGIN by DEBUNKING your FALLACY regarding a "few grains of sand" by taking just ONE of the ice caps and looking at the MATH.

    https://www.climate.gov/news-featur...018 and August,2020 average measured by GRACE.

    Do the MATH for yourself. 268 billion tons * 18 years = 4.8 TRILLION TONS of ice weight REMOVED from an area that is only 1.23 million square miles out of a total planet area of 319 million square miles.

    That makes Greenland a PRESSURE POINT on the Fault Lines in the area. The removal of that pressure point causes Isostatic Rebound which is explained further on but for those without the technical knowledge think of it as what happens when you squeeze a balloon and then release the pressure. The area that you push down on depresses and the balloon bulges out somewhere else. You remove the pressure and the bulges go down and the area you pressed down on bounces back up again.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873965214000681

    That paper was written in 2014 and there has been another 1.6 TRILLION tons of WEIGHT removed from the area subsequently.

    Moving on, Alaska sits on the Pacific Rim and has a great deal of ice and this paper is from 2018 where SIMILAR events have been observed.

    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1755-1315/167/1/012018/pdf

    So in a scant 4 years the Global Climate changes are SIGNIFICANT enough to come to the attention of serious Scientists given their IMPACT on Seismic Activity.

    The Smithsonian put these same concerns into LAYMANS terms.

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scie...rs-are-wreaking-havoc-earths-crust-180960226/

    So that establishes that the WEIGHT BURDEN of the ICE is significant enough to SUPPRESS earthquakes and when that WEIGHT is REMOVED then earthquakes will occur. The OVERALL weight LOSS is so IMMENSE that it is ALTERING the AXIS of the ENTIRE PLANET.

    The SEESAW effect is now DOCUMENTED Scientific FACT given that areas where the ICE is MELTING are RISING while other areas are SINKING. For those who understand gravity the pull on the waters in the oceans is sufficient to enable Scientists to make these measurements.

    Hopefully this sheds some light on the matter for those who are interested in the actual SCIENCE and MATH behind these occurances.
     
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    You are correct that they are NOT exclusive as long as EVERYONE understands that religion is 100% METAPHORICAL while SCIENCE relies upon VERIFIABLE FACTS.

    It was NOT Jesus that put a man on the moon, it was Science.
     
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    Sorry, but your uninformed prejudice is showing. The WUWT post is simply showcasing the linked "Science News" article. Here's the link: Science News

    Here's the "Science News" headline:
    An upwelling of rock beneath the Atlantic may drive continents apart
    The Mid-Atlantic Ridge may play a more active role in plate tectonics than thought
     
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    99.5% of ice cover in Greenland present in 1900 is still there today. At the current rate of ice loss it will take many thousands of years to lose even half of it, let alone all of it. What you don't seem to understand is the full mass of the ice sheet. And yes, the "grains of sand" analogy remains apt.
     
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    A Geological Perspective of the Greenland Ice Sheet
    of the ice sheet laden with instruments to gleen information about the interior of the ice sheet and the ... cold war relic on the ice sheet in 
Greenland. ... Text: Toke Brødsgaard, greenland today July 2015

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    99.58% of the Greenland Ice Sheet has not melted since 1900.
     
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    When New Zealand succumbs to climate change I'm sure Hollywood movie makers will find other suitable locations. Those people have the ways and means to get what they want.
     
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    A Geological Perspective of the Greenland Ice Sheet

    Using the maximum basal melting scenario (Bref = 40), I tacked the modern GrIS volume profile on to the model.

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    Who would have guessed that the “Anthropocene” GrIS is actually larger than it was during the Late Pleistocene? WUWT? X-axis is in calendar years AD(BC).
     
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    Ironic you would say that. My brother's NASA scientist career began with the intense preparation for Apollo 11. Like most Americans, the vast majority of scientists and engineers with NASA at the time were Christians. Moreover, their family, culture and national heritages going back centuries was Christianity! From a Christian perspective, God [Jesus is God] put man on the moon, and Christians were God's instuments!

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    I uphold you right to your uninformed OPINION but the SCIENCE and the FACTUAL DATA supports my position.

    The ENTIRE ice sheet does NOT need to disappear in order for a LOSS of WEIGHT to occur that is SIGNIFICANT enough to RELEASE STRESS that results in the EARTHQUAKES currently occurring.

    The LEGITIMATE Scientific sources that I posted have provided CREDIBLE SUBSTANTIATION for my position whereas NOTHING that you have posted supports your facile OPINION on the topic.
     
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    :roflol:

    Using YOUR illogical rationalization YOUR imaginary god used Darwin as his "instrument" to INFORM the world about the REALITY of EVOLUTION and he used the Supreme Court as his "instrument" to UPHOLD the abortion RIGHTS of women.

    So YOU had better start LEARNING about Evolution and stop trying to BAN abortion otherwise YOU will make your imaginary god angry because you are DEFYING his WILL.

    See how that works?

    :roflol:
     
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    Sorry, but your post is mere denial. Given that the ice sheet in toto is a minor increment in the surface weight of Greenland, the loss of 0.005 of that minor increment is indeed a grain of sand.
     
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