Obama backs reparations for the first time and slams ‘politics of white resistance’

Why do blacks commit more crimes?

This is not a trick question. Nor is it a trivial question. I ask because I have found that most people I ask this have just never thought about it.

Why do you think that is?

 

Sir, thank you for posting this. The essay in the second link was uplifting. It is a shame that most of the posters on this thread won't even bother to open it. It really does explain what the reality is.

That particular essay, and PF member Nightmare515's comments concerning the schools in Baltimore in another thread are spot on with the truth. Unfortunately, victimhood plays much better than hard work, self discipline, and sacrifice.

In one of our presentations for newbies, we state "We are looking for motivated, responsible, tough individuals who will appreciate this opportunity that is given them. We don't need whiners, complainers, cry-babies, or people who make excuses about everything." America could use a bit of that right now too.

 

Hell, I don't know, Golem... maybe they commit crimes because they think they'll get away with them...? Or, perhaps more likely, they don't think at all.

It's not a "trick" answer... my degree wasn't in the forensic sciences.

 

The premise of your question is that skin color has something to do with crime? Why would that be?

 

Obama
Black Nationalist
Get it or Not


BTW Obama has no genetic linkage
to West African slaves and was a kid in
some of the most racially tolerant turf.

Black Nationalist as it serves Obama
Just like Bro Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.
Obama could have chosen to be the darling of the liberals
in a more diverse, affluent district when choosing where to live & recruit.
Black Nationalist as it serves . . .


Moi
Voted Obama '08
the foreclosure crisis was too much ignored

Accident casting by Roma Downey
or a "message"​

 

Slavery was abolished in 1865. Neither Great Britain nor France paid any former slave a "reparation" when those oh-so civilized nations got rid of slavery a little earlier in the 1800's than we did, and that far-fetched idea was never even contemplated during 'emancipation' here in the U.S.

This is all ancient history, and, a weird, Black bullshit daydream... forget it....

 

So your answer is that you don't know! Then you need to find out before inserting yourself in a debate about reparations. Because the answer to that question is exactly the reason why reparation measures must be enacted.

 

The premise of my question is that skin color has nothing to do with crime. If you meditate and try to answer the question honestly, you will immediately realize this fact.

I state it again: Why are there disproportionately more black people in prison than white people?

You think you're up to the challenge of trying to answer?

 

Cause whitey hold them down and whitey bad?

 

The United States of America is NOT Great Britian or France. What those countries did concerning slavery and reparations has nothing to do with this country.
This is not ancient history. It is recent history. If we were talking about events of 1,000 years ago that would be ancient history. It is not a daydream, either. It is a goal that many descendants of African slaves are working toward.

 

The reason there are more Black people than White people in prison is because the criminal justice system is rigged against Blacks. Systemic racism guarantees more Blacks than Whites will end up in prison.

 

I said, when you asked, that I did not know WHY Blacks commit crimes -- which had NOTHING to do with your completely irrelevant and unfocused contention that taxpayers should give Blacks "reparations"....

Truth? When anyone commits crimes. they shouldn't be amazed if they are sentenced to prison after they're found guilty... (doh!)

 

And now you're going to provide proof and evidence to support your opinion...?

But, I WON'T hold my breath waiting to see it....

 

If that was your premise why was skin color identified in your question?

 

Absolutely! But how do we explain to these guys that fixing systemic racism doesn't imply they'll lose their white privilege. And what it would accomplish would be simply to extend it to everybody.

 

Read the book "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander. I'm sure your library has a copy of it. Also, there are YouTube videos featuring Miss Alexander's lectures.
She explains how the first police in this country were actually slave patrols whose job was to catch and punish runaway slaves.
She explains in great detail how after slavery was made illegal, the southern states came up with laws created to trap ex-slaves into working on prison plantations.
The same system is still in place---it's just more sophisticated now.

 

Golem, I don't know if they will ever understand. The systemic racism is strong in the USA; and the desire to hold onto privilege is strong too. All we can do is continue to speak our truth and hope that one day our words will make a difference.

 

Enemies of the US deny America's diverse ethnicity and support white supremacy.

"White resistance" is a joke.
There is no race war.
Only neo-Nazis believe this.

 

Wait a minute. You just said skin color has nothing to do with it. Now skin color gets them convicted of crimes? Which is it?

 

Reperations are foolish, and genuinely racist to even suggest them.

 

Them committing more crime has nothing to do with slavery or discrimination. Its culture, and no that culture is not a product of discrimination either.

Reperations are racist.

 

I’ll support anything that isn’t monetary, and isn’t unique for the black community. Everyone should benefit from whatever is offered.

Reperations are not only discriminatory by taking from those who haven't done wrong and giving to those who haven't had wrong done to them, but wont solve anything. The issue isn't lack of money, or lack of opportunities. There is already equal opportunity available. In fact, being black already makes it easier to get hired with equal qualifications than a white person. The issue is a cultural one that needs to be addressed from within the black community.

Until that is done, the issues they face around crime and poverty will remain. Once reperations are given, and they fall short of fixing anything, there will be calls for more reperations, and more reperations, and more. There will always be the same arguments used now, time and time again.

Culture isn't fixed with reperations, regardless of what reasoning you think is behind the cultural issue.

Reperations at this point, like many things the left does, aren't asked for due to efficacy, but symbolism.

 

That's exactly what I understood. You don't know why they commit more crimes. And I personally don't know whether that's true or not. But I assume you did your due diligence, and your research shows that they do. The question was why. And the fact that you don't know is crucial to understanding why reparations are necessary. So I suggest you also do your due diligence by researching that before participating in a discussion about reparations.

 

Rather than rejecting or ignoring nearly everything your faction projects about "systemic racism", I decided to look into the main thesis of "The New Jim Crow", and Ms. Alexander, its authoress....

Michelle Alexander, I learned is a Black civil rights lawyer -- highly-claimed by the radical Left, who is also an op-ed columnist at the New York Times. She has close ties with the George Soros organization, "Open Society Foundations": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Society_Foundations , and the ACLU, where she was Director of the "Racial Justice Project" at the ACLU of Northern California , and a national campaign against racial profiling by law enforcement. She directed the Civil Rights Clinic at Stanford Law School. OK... now we know who we are dealing with....

The main thrust of her book, "The New Jim Crow" revolves around her complaint that after Black criminals deliberately commit criminal acts (especially peddling drugs), the court system metes out 'harsh' sentences to Blacks, and more particularly, sentences that are longer than those given to White defendants.

Now, what was "Jim Crow" in the first place...? Jim Crow laws were state and local laws that enforced racial segregation in the Southern United States. These were laws put into effect in the 'Deep South' to create a 'separate-but-equal' society in which Whites and Blacks could coexist after the rending destruction wrecked on the former states of the Confederacy by the North's imposed, "Reconstruction Period".

Fast-forward to 2021... Nowhere in any review of "The New Jim Crow" could I see that Ms. Alexander had built a thesis on the return of ANY of the events that occurred in the "old" Jim Crow. No one has advocated the return of segregation, no one has advocated taking away any American citizen's right to vote, or to be entitled to full EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW. Ms. Alexander may believe that Black criminals are given unequally-long sentences for the crimes they commit, and her ACLU colleagues often argue that Black criminals should be let out of prison early because of it. I am trying to remember the last time I have even heard of nearly any criminal, of any color, serving the entirety of a prison sentence as originally pronounced....

From all of this, I conclude:

1. If any Black criminal believes that his/her sentence is unjustly long when compared with the crimes committed by White criminals, they should immediately get in touch with the closest ACLU branch or chapter as soon as possible.

2. Any person of ANY color should carefully consider the very real possibility that if he COMMITS A CRIME, there is an equally very real possibility that he will go to prison!

3. Individual instances of proven 'unequal sentencing by criminals for crimes committed' is not (NOT) evidence of "systemic racism" in virtually every part of every organization in the United States.

4. There is no "New Jim Crow" in the United States, and the Civil Rights Act of 1964, plus the Voting Rights Act of 1965, guarantee that there never will be another "Jim Crow" period in the United States again.

5. The effort to leverage the 'meme' of a fictitious "New Jim Crow" by anyone in order to get vast new government handouts to Blacks in the form of "reparations" is nothing but opportunistic, specious, manipulative NONSENSE.

 

That's my question to you. Why do you think there are more black people in prison than white people?