Turning Jesus into God

https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-is-dark-energy

 

Form your link it seems at this point....."We are much more certain what dark matter is not than we are what it is."

 

A difference in what way Pb (lead LOL) just realizing this as typing .. nothing to do with you.

Obviously it matters in some ways .. - the name on the dinner invitation for example .. but, does it matter to the issue in question - one which you seem not to have noticed rather than intentionally ignored ... so guessing you only read the first line

but OK .. so the question/issue being addressed is in relation "Gods Word" .. as in "The word of God"

If I say to you - here is a rule from God - the rule is Don't kill .. does it matter whether it comes from the emissary of God - or God - in terms of the validity of the message.

If you believe Jesus was the messenger of God - as that is what Jesus called himself and was called by others - "The Logos" - "God's Word Incarnate"

What difference does it make as to whether or not you obey this rule ? Whether it came "Directly From God Himself" - Face to Fact . or from one whome you believe is "The Logos" a divine emissary between God and Man .. the "Son of Man"

I say .. either way - you are likely to follow this rule -

Which brings us to .. What did "The Logos" say - The Christ - Devine Son of God - in human flesh ? and then we shall see - in proper context .. whether or not we choose identity A) The Logos - Divine Son of God - Son of Man or B) The Most High - The Supreme One - Father - Creator - God of Abraham - head of the Divine Council of El

Other than the commands - which he touched on - Don't kill - steal - shag neighbors wife .. and I think we need to distinguish between "Commands" in the OT .. both Abrahmic and Mosaic although almost the same - and The Law .. Jewish Law .. as certainly it seemed Jesus made this distinction .. breaking many of these laws .. yet keeping the commands and counseling others to do so.

So then - other than this - What did Jesus have to tell us about God's Rules ? and does it matter whether these rules came from A - or B.

 

Yes .. one day the sun will start misbehaving - and this is a disaster waiting to happen - but, I don't think it will turn into a black hole .. creating a gravity well so big that we will be sucked in .. which .. that said .. would probably be preferable to the alternative .. being roasted to a crisp somewhat slowly.

 

How does that mean that empty space has no temperature ? - but that aside - How are you here - if space is empty ?

 

You answer your own question in your post

 

Jesus wasn't just God's mouthpiece. He did miracles and works in the name of God. But he wasn't God himself.

Remember that the Romans crucified and killed Jesus. This would have been impossible if Jesus were God since God is immortal.

 

if he wasn't a god how did he come back?

 

God brought Jesus back to life. But he could never have done it if he had died himself.

 

he had the opportunity to bring everyone who died back, but didn't. that's not ethical at all.

 

Never said Jesus was just God's mouthpiece - agree that Jesus was not God himself.

What has this to do with the validity of "God's Word" ? ..

 

but is he a god?

 

Of course, Jesus is God. That's the whole idea. Jesus is LORD, don't you listen on Sunday?

The Trinity is the major dogma of Christianity. God is Triune in nature, like man He has Body (Father) Mind (Jesus) and Spirit (Holy Ghost).

Good fiction book on this is Wyrms by Orson Scott Card

 

That is not really the question being addressed - the assumption is that Jesus was divine .. a "Son of God" ..

The question is whether it matters if he was "The Most High" God .. or a somewhat lesser God. - to the "Word of God"

 

Perhaps look at it a different way....
I appear here precisely because "space is empty".
If not for the empty space between everything we see...
nothing would exist as we know it.
Kind of like one big continuous blob.

 

Something that moves through empty space does not become a part of empty space.

 

How do you define SPACE?

 

There is no such thing as empty space .. there is the space between particles and matter - but within this space there are particles and photons .. where is pure "Empty" Space ? and what is the distance of this "empty space" .. between the photons passing through 0 on the way to your eyeballs.

You are talking about a construct - that you have not thought much about...

This conversation - which went down rabbit hole after rabbit hole - because that is what Kobyashi does - went from time travel - and claims about this "empty space concept that he had .. and that this space is not curved by mass -

Yes this is in complete contravention of Einstein - and Koby shows no signs of scientific skill - but we should accept this on the basis that "Space is Empty" and has no properties. - like the verb - creating a space for listening.

We are still finding things out about what is better referred to as the Fabric of Space -- dark matter - dark energy - but all the time - on the basis of Einsteins predictions - and those of others on the basis of tis perspective and theory - these predictions are coming true . Gravity waves being one of the latest ..

but yes -- this fabric has properties .. gravity being one of them .. as in when you throw a ball of mass onto this carpet .. gravity is created .. and the bigger the mass .. the more gravity.

 

Its a 3d abstract construct, a figment of our imagination 3 distances, we can use this abstraction to 'represent' area. Space has NO 'physical' qualities. Numbers on your calculator. The simplest form:



when you measure a cardboard box you measure the 'space' that its mass occupies.

 

"We are still finding things out"

That's probably the most accurate statement so far.

 

After the day of judgment, God will let enter paradise all humans that He wants there.
There we'll meet all the prophets and of course God himself.

 

gabmux hasn't answered the question of how does HE defines SPACE.

 

The biblical gaudy jeweled golden cube called New Jerusalem is not defined as a paradise. Are you discussing the Islamic paradise?

 

There is only one god, so there is only one paradise.
Christians, Jews, and Muslims have a slightly different understanding of paradise but mean the same.

 

he said empty?