California Bill Would Give $1,000 Fines to Retailers With Separate 'Girls' and 'Boys' Toy Sections

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Nobody cares. Let the retailers arrange their merchandise to their purposes. Strangely it isn't a goal of retailing to make life more difficult for its customers. Retailers like and value customers.
     
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    It's complicated isn't it?
     
  3. Maquiscat

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    Part of the problem here is any instance that a given toy is a boys toy or a girls toy.
     
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    Problem for who? Kids will decide for themselves what toys they prefer marketing label or no marketing label.
     
  5. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    But parents don't always. How many times is a boy denied a doll because it is a "girls toy"? But likewise, it is that same instance on claiming a toy to be a boys or a girls toy that leads to a supposition by someone other then the store, that toys are being divided as such. For that matter it is a problem with the people who want to eliminate those labels, because they are still associating the labels with the toys, regardless of how the store is actually sorts it.
     
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    People who think dolls are primarily a girls toy will not change their minds because a marketing label in a store says differently. We're running into conflict with our social structure there. The discourse can be suppressed but that isn't likely to change that structure.
     
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  7. Maquiscat

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    I agree. I think we might be on a couple of different specific points within the overall topic.
     
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    Except the radical authoritarian left.
     
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    (Imagined continuation):
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  10. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    Where's the ROFL option?
     
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    I know what Maquiscat meant. It's what I see currently and it's something I see a HUGE flaw in the thinking of this bill.

    If I go to Walmart or Target for example, I'm seeing aisles of toys. They're not labeled "This is a boy's section" and "This is a girl's section", they're labeled by what toys are in those aisles. Dolls are in one aisle, games in another, Legos are in yet another, Action Figures (such as Transformers) down another.

    The only section that I see defined as "Boys" and "Girls" are the bicycles and that's mostly due to the difference in the genders and their body designs. OK, so you 're unlikely to find a pink bike in the "Boys" section, but you do see dirt and mountain bikes in the "Girls" section.

    So this brings us to the problem. How would a retailer avoid the fine if they keep doing toys in sections by type. If dolls and home playsets are in aisles different from Legos and Action Figures...how do they avoid the fine from people who might think "Well gee willikers! That's separating Boys and Girls into two different sections! Got to fine their fannies for being naughty like that."

    Especially since for example my store's Lego aisle has the Lego lines from Lego Star Wars, to Basic Legos, to Lego Friends, Lego Minecraft (isn't that a bit redundant when you think of it?), Lego Frozen...pretty much a sampling of the whole lot. It's not divided "Boys" and "Girls"...It's divided by theme.

    The only way I can see stopping those fines would mean just putting crap on the shelves in random order meaning that a baby doll might be found next to Optimus Prime, which is found next to a copy of the card game Unstable Unicorn. Meaning that the consumer will have to wander the aisles aimlessly looking for something and the sales associates will be pretty much unable to assist anyone. "Where can I find an Elsa Action Figure?" "Damned if I know. Third shift unpacked the truck last night and now I can't find a @#$%ing thing." will become a common scenario.
     
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    WTF?
     
  13. Maquiscat

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    I found that funny.
     
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    This is true and I wonder if we won't soon see demands to change the toys themselves so that they aren't "gender-specific". I used to think the problem was funny. What's happening now is clearly dangerous and ultimately destructive of our freedom. I don't believe the Marxist Left care about any of these "issues". Their goal is to use anything they can to divide and weaken us.
     
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    This is just reinforcement of the novel idea that we can change our sex if we wish really really hard.
     
  16. Maquiscat

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    Off topic and strawman at the same time.
     
  17. Maquiscat

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    I see this as a difference between the left and the far left, and sadly, when the far left pull these stunts, idiots on the far right broad brush the general left in with them. The inverse happens as well.

    The thing is children are already, or maybe more accurately parents are allowing them to, breaking the stereotypes of toys. So, efforts like this bill are little more than giving a order after the action is finished and then claiming they obeyed you.
     
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    It's right on target. Boys/girls all same same. That's the theme of all this marketing BS.
     
  19. Maquiscat

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    The idea that boys can play with dolls and kitchen playsets, and girls can play with guns and truck, has nothing to do with anything about transgenderism or the concept of sex vs gender. You are engaging in a strawman, and it is off topic from the idea of sex/gender specific labeled items.
     
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    It has to do with normalization of a previously unacceptable public norm. Part of the overall propaganda campaign. Kids have always played with the toy of their choice. Of course guns are now unacceptable for either whatever. I'm not woke but I'm not asleep either.
     
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    Welcome to a healthy growing society. Normalization of SSM, interracial marriage, women voting and working, blacks as equals, the list goes on.
     
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    See how effective propaganda can be?
     
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    So glad I don't live in a truly Nazi state like California.
     
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    Hey Abbot!
     
  25. Maquiscat

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    Every generation normalizes things previous generations claimed as unacceptable public norm. Hell just clothing changes alone through the centuries. There is not a single type of clothing out there, with the possible exception of the skort, that has not then the acceptable social norm for both sexes at one point or another. High heels started out as men's fashion.
     

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