Turning Jesus into God

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by Giftedone, Feb 16, 2021.

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God or Messenger of God .. does it matter ?

  1. Yes - it matters ..

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  2. No - it does not

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  3. Other - I don't understand the question .. need more information .. @#$% - does not compute !

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    What link?
    Nice sleight of hand, claim there is a link without posting one! :lol:
    You just keep digging your hole deeper!
    Who seen what?
    Someone seen space bend? now thats over the top hilarious.
    I dont see a link, what link? Who wrote that comedy?
    Space as I laid out to make it perfectly clear is an empty void.
    So you seen space bend and ripple eh? Lets see the pictures of what you saw!
     
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  2. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Koko .. the link was in a post you responded to.
    https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-is-space?utm_source=pocket-newtab

    Don't forget to remember the "Definitely not an empty void" part.
     
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    Cosmo Well-Known Member

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    It was Einstein, and Einstein alone, who derived a complete system from first principles (using one fundamental postulate) and only he correctly derived E=mc2 from said postulate.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't believe Koko is wrong. I don't think anyone knows exactly if empty space is not empty..
    they have theories.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    My bad, I did not include the long winded part before the quote. The topic being discussed was 'outer space' in regard to weeners space-time.
    All 'space' is, is a definition of the boundaries of an area or for that matter an infinite expanse of 'area'.
    'Space' is not the same as 'outer' space.
    'Outer space' is not the same as 'space-time'.
    If he wants to argue space which has no physical properties then he is talking about x,y,z, not 'outer space'.
    He argued 'space'.
    Therefore koko is right.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Do you have any idea how hilarious this is getting. Someone should take away your shovel. Did you bother to read your link? LMAO

    Weeners theory does not hold water!

    1) GR and SR FAILED to yield empirical real life accurate results in GPS tests.
    2) Newton and Lorentz fixed the problem!
    3) Now sat positioning is so accurate you can sign your name on a piece of paper with it.
    Thank you Ron Hatch.
    4) I gave you several articles confirming this.
    5) You are in denial of empirically proven facts.

    I suppose you never bothered to ask yourself why the enormous gravity from the sun does not affect the satellite clocks since the earth is in the suns warped space? Do you even understand the point just stated? LOL
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    why do you people insist on posting bullshit all the time?

    Was Einstein the First to Invent E = mc2?

    According to scientific folklore, Albert Einstein formulated this equation in 1905 and, in a single blow, explained how energy can be released in stars and nuclear explosions. This is a vast oversimplification.

    Einstein was neither the first person to consider the equivalence of mass and energy, nor did he actually prove it.


    Anyone who sits through a freshman electricity and magnetism course learns that charged objects carry electric fields, and that moving charges also create magnetic fields.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/was-einstein-the-first-to-invent-e-mc2/

    Same problem with the so called discussions on religion and atheism. Bunch of people that should be in school instead of trying to tackle complex issues beyond their academic skill level.

    All pay homage and worship the false god einstein.

    Ok look;

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    They show you a 2d picture of space warping and a 3d planet.

    Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

    gravity is best conceptualized as a field around a planet that is reduced by the square of the distance just like newton said.

    If the sun had gravity strong strong enough it affect planets in alpha centauri, which is not to say it does not, just that its so minuscule what happens to the sun is not relevant to alpha centauri.
     
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    I should be getting paid for this ****
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol....might happen
     
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    Astrophysics ( much like evolution) is a mystery to you.
     
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    Ahahaha yes it is! earlier he tried to pretend a tv doesn't get cosmic background radiation, aka evidence for the BB.
     
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    Im tuned to it right here, in this thread.
    I told you before that your tv receives man made vhf and uhf, not cosmic radiation. lol
     
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    Hey I am not the one who is so naive that I believe space can be warped, neither do I turn my nose up and dismiss a species whose genetic markers does not tie in and call it evolution.
     
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    Koko - Don't blame me for the fact that you think you are smarter than Einstein and the entire scientific community ..

    4) none of your articles confirmed what you are saying
    5) You are the one in denial of empirically proven facts ..

    Did you forget the post where you shown contradicting yourself ..?

    You claim "Space has no properties"

    Your GDS article that you say supports you .. contradicts your claim

    You argument is so lost - that your own links contradict you.
     
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    and NASA says otherwise. why would anyone believe you when they sent a car to Mars and you're just sitting here trolling?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't care what you think of Koko - but the fact of the matter is that Koko's own links contradict him .. and the claims relate to more than "emptiness" so you are a bit off script.

    and Koko is stating "Defacto" - that space has no physical properties - a claim that is simply not true .. as stated by the link you posted.

    did you not read it ?
     
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    I'm not the one who references a religious think-tank like the Discovery Institute that undermines science; which you have in other threads trying to support your position on evolution.
     
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    No citation?
    Thats convincing!
    you know they dont, which is why you cant cite it LOL

    ah yes! when you cant debate the subject shoot the messenger!
     
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    I think pretend is an appropriate descriptive.
     
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    these guys think that when you fold a road map it folds the countryside drawn on it LMAO

    there is warped space alright, its not outer space however
     
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    You're projecting, carry on.
     
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    geebus you dont even know what that means?
     
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    No one is shooting the messenger. Asking for a citation for an article you posted is laughable - as is the fact that your own link contradicts your claim .. along with Einstein - the rest of the scientific world - and the empirical evidence.
     
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    no link hat I posted says any such thing, stop making **** u p.
     
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    The fellow posted from your link .. but regardless - it matters not.. You stand against Science .. That is a fact.

    You want to claim Einstein was an idiot -a "Weiner" to use your words - don't let me stop you .. but - this does not mean I have to agree with you .. especially since you have put up nothing legitimate in defense of your position ..

    You have however managed to contradict your position ..

    Your position is so easily refuted - What is the temperature in space ? - does the meter read High .. or does it read low when we stick a thermometer outside of the space station ?

    As soon as you answer that question - your position is over.. the answer btw ... is that your thermometer reads as low as it will go .. at which point your claim that space has no physical properties .. is into the trash bin.

    While outer space - meaning the space within our galaxy - or Universe if you like - is really cold - there is no cubic meter that does not contain at least some energy ..... which also proves your claim false.

    And God said "Let there be Light" - and Koko was enlightened.
     

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