Trump: Request for 10K Guard Troops Rejected Days Before Riot

Another observation.....Why does a President that has supposedly received far more votes than any President in history, need National Guard Troops, a wall and razor wire around it's Capitol?

 

You said I was dishonest and then have the audacity to complain that I'm moving the goalposts?

The fact remains that if you are the Speaker, and there is law business to conduct at the Capitol, you are responsible for ensuring security. You might delegate that to a security chief(s), but overall, you are responsible.

Please explain how this is wrong; who is responsible? If I'm a member of Congress, who do I think of as responsible for my security at the moment I walk through the Capitol doors?

 

Um, please re-read carefully and comprehensively....Dump claimed he did, but there is no evidence or record of such an order. You have to read the ENTIRE article for this excerpt to be further clarified:

Miller and Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, meet with Trump, according to the Department of Defense. Trump agrees to activate the D.C. National Guard to support D.C. police (not Capitol Police) with crowd and traffic control. The Pentagon later tells Pro Publica, “The President had no role in tactical matters as the capabilities deployed and location were dictated solely by the request from D.C. government.”

 

Isn't the conversation a recollection from Miller? Didn't he say Trump said 10k troops were needed, and to "get it done"? Isn't he the SECDEF? That appears to be an order to me; Trump wouldn't have skipped the SECDEF in the chain of command to issue the order directly to General Walker.

Where am I going wrong here?

 

The speaker manages the capital police. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

If a situation develops in which more than the Capitol police is required, who asks Trump for the NG? Or is Trump to use his own discretion in the deployment of the NG?

 

Do you trust Trump to tell you the truth?

 

They do, absolutely and without hesitation

 

Because the other side are having the biggest meltdown potentially since the civil war. Thankfully they have special dietary restrictions and are mostly geriatric so the likelihood of it escalating beyond that is unlikely.

I would ask why none of you complained when dear cult leader erected barricades around the White House but we all know he has never received far more votes than any President in history... hell, he couldn’t even win the popular vote once.

 

Yeah....you and the media played it off as an "armed insurrection". It was merely a sixties sit in and like Kent State, one of their unarmed number was shot down, that's all. You leftist like to turn the People's House into a Stalinist armed Camp so you can pull off the crap you do and feel safe. It's the only explanation. Never let a crisis go to waste!

 

It wasn’t armed, it was an insurrection

And we don’t plan to, the trump team will carry that forever. They will get what’s coming to them.

 

WOW, here we go again....

I can ask Trump to deploy the National Guard, that does not mean I have the power to deploy the National Guard.

Again, the Speaker of the House has NO authority over the Natioanl Guard. The speaker is ONLY in charge of the capital police, and where/how THEY are used

 

The media portrayed it as armed. Kent State was an insurrection too.

 

Authority and duty are 2 different concepts. You are discussing the former, i, the latter. If the Capitol needed security beyond Capitol police, how would Trump know that? Who is required, by duty, to tell him?

 

What media? Some rightfully said stun guns were there, and they are classified as a non lethal weapon — but not a firearm.

 

The capital police

 

Right off the bat you're wrong, because Miller NEVER stated that Dump ordered10K troops, as Dump claimed . Here's the story:
The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. "We’re like, ‘We’re going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests,’" Miller responded. "And (Trump) goes, ‘You’re going to need 10,000 people.’ No, I’m not talking bullshit. He said that. And we’re like, ‘Maybe. But you know, someone’s going to have to ask for it.’" At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, "‘You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do.’ He said, ‘You’re going to need 10,000.’ That’s what he said. Swear to God."

A Defense Department spokesman said the department "has no record of such an order being given" by Trump.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...of-trump-requested-10000-guard-troops-jan-6-/

Got that? Hope so.

 

What are you talking about??? I ASKED if it was Miller's recollection. You post this, which not only indicates it is Miller talking, but also confirms my post.

Look at the last sentence of the conversation! Does Trump not say, "You do what you need to do. You're going to need 10000."? That's coming from the SECDEF! That's the guy that Trump would give the order to!

Of course I love how the crooked media state at the end that no such order could be found on record at the DoD. Hey dimwits, how about the order you just got from the horse's mouth? Ya know, from the guy that "runs that outfit over there".

 

That isn't a person. A person has to ask Trump for the NG. So again, who is the person whose duty is to ask Trump for the NG, if in their opinion, more than the Capitol police is required to ensure security?

 

This is not a democracy any longer. It is the slave party dictatorships. Joe Biden is the premier, the general secretary and the media and social media are like soviet era Pravda. Nancy runs the politburo.

Using our military against ordinary Americans is disgusting and inexcusable!

If these idiot fascists are allowed to get away with it expect prison camps in Alaska somewhere and expect walls. Walls not to protect Americans from foreign invasion but to protect libos from regular Americans.

 

Although I don't discount that or something similar as a future possibility, I don't believe we are there yet. We only need to win Americans with words.

We have a strong military, made up of mostly good people with strong character. They maintain their indivuality in personality, religion, and politics. They have family and friends all over the country and even the world. Our government has years of work to do to be able to use our military effectively against us. I'm watching closely for this work. We aren't there yet.

 

No they dont. Thats where your wrong.

TRUMP controls the NG. Nobody else. There are multiple security services in Washington. You're fishing to get someone to say Nancy was supposed to ask for the NG and thats just not true. The capital police DID ask for help after the riot started, but as has been clearly testified to, the DOD held up the request for almost 3 hours.

 

FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See how easy it is.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure if Pelosi has any sort of duty. I suspect it. Mostly I've been asking questions. I know someone had a duty. If it was delayed, who delayed it? Again, as in the person responsible.

 

And hopefully we will actually find that out in these hearings