Judge Orders Arizona GOP to Pay Up for Filing ‘Groundless’ Lawsuit Challenging 2020 Election Results

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  1. dgrichards

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    Go back seven posts and you will see.
     
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    A plaintiff most often does not have the resources or authority to be able to conduct an investigation.
    They need access to certain areas and certain people. And an investigation is a very active thing.
     
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    Investigations are the sole responsibility of the plaintiff.
     
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    Do you mean through the discovery process?

    Because many states actually have laws that would make it illegal to be able to conduct a private investigation.
     
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    Gee, it's hard. No kidding? If they have a legal right to access certain areas and certain people, they can petition the court. Based on what they bring to the judge, will either accept or deny. Does not investigate!.
     
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    Through whatever. You are the plaintiff. Your responsibility.
     
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    none of this fall within the purview of a judge
     
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    Is that what you think? Certainly you don't know because there hasn't been a report of any investigation.
     
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    Of course there has. That you, an anonymous internet poster, doesn’t have access doesn’t change reality.
     
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    Nor does your claim. If you aren't going to show me where I can read a report of a legitimate investigation you should save the time not respond.
     
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    If you know of a crime than you go to the cops. They’ll deal with the DA, not you.
     
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    I didn't make a claim. I pointed out there have been numerous investigations, by trumps own department heads.
    My time is better served by pointing out that every investigation to date has shown you there is no fraud. You thinking there have been no investigations has no bearing on reality. I've shown you numerous agencies, under trump, which investigated the issue.
     
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    Police are not always going to be able to be politically impartial in a situation like this.

    They have to take orders from higher up, and their superiors oftentimes tell detectives not to take on cases.
     
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    You’re looking for perfection in an imperfect world...
    In this world, judges don’t investigate. That’s the job of the police or other investigating bodies like the FBI.
    You may BELIEVE that a crime took place, but if you can’t convince them then you’ve got no case.
     
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    Do you not ever read the news? There were all sorts of investigations by Trump's legal team. What do you think the Kraken was going to be...the result of their investigation. When Rudy put people up as witnesses during the non-official hearings those people were the result of the investigation.
     
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    Show me the report of a single investigation and I will believe you. If you can't then save your breath.
     
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    Bla bla bla. Produce a single report of a single investigation. Otherwise get off my case.
     
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    If there was a report of an investigation that proved no fraud, the left would be all over it. The government would make it public because it is in its interest to do so. There isn't a single one.
     
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    Did the state counter sue for legal defense costs? If not, this judge can pound sand.

    Is this the start of tort reform? I hope so. You sue somebody for damages, and you lose... you pay them the amount you were suing for. Watch the number of baseless claims fall like a rock from outerspace.
     
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    Why do you think anonymous internet posters can obtain investigative reports?

    meanwhile, I’ve shown you numerous federal agencies which have conducted investigations and they’ve all shown you there was no fraud.
     
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    Lol, the government did make it public. As you’ve been shown, numerous federal agencies investigated the matter and have all shown you there was no fraud.
     
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    How do you think the Trump legal team found all those witnesses and all those signed affidavits?

    Do you think they just magically appeared in the mailbox of the Trump legal team?

    Then there was the investigation of the voting machines in Michigan....https://www.9and10news.com/2020/12/14/analysis-of-antrim-county-ballot-machines-made-public/
     
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    Do you think they just magically appeared in the mailbox of the Trump legal team?[/quote]

    I think they were delivered by Antarctic penguins.

    Recounts deal with the accuracy of the count, not who filled out the ballots.
     
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    I have not been shown a report of the results of an investigation. Sorry, you are incorrect.
     
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    No you haven't shown a report of a single one. You have shown articles linked on the internet.
     

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