farming and conservation

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Did he germinate successfully?
     
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    Sure, why not? Kinda lean though. Deer sausage with some pork fat added is where it's at! Them just wild range cattle!
    I have not done much in the past couple years but I have had a decent garden at times.
     
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    Sorry to hear about the giving up certain foods. I have a brother-in-law that can eat a few vegetables and rice and that’s about it. It’s miserable for him and it makes it hard for social events as well even though everyone works hard to accommodate his limitations.
    That’s fair. I still think that’s a hard line to draw. We have a commonly used pre emergent corn herbicide that is “synthetic” but virtually identical to a compound in the plant it was discovered in. It’s “natural” but not “common” as it isn’t in many plants naturally. But I do see your point and agree on many “unnatural” chemicals/compounds.

    Just out of curiosity, what’s your opinion on Bt direct application as opposed to plant “manufactured” in GMO’s? I’m sure you are familiar with it’s use in gardening.
    Absolutely. On both sides of the equation. We want it to “eat” and produce good things not just “not eat” bad things.
    Definitely the glue. I’m sure English microbiologists would concur. I wouldn’t trust French biologists...

    I’m more Irish and everyone knows we’d never stoop to such levels. LOL.

    No offense to anyone, it’s all in good fun.
     
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    I tend to make stews and pies with venison. As you say, it is too lean for roasting and grilling as it can end up dry and tough.
    Venison in port and redcurrant is a favourite recipe as the sweetness really compliments the gamey flavour.
    The loin does make a good steak though, needs to be fairly rare to stop it drying out. With the little Muntjak we have around here the whole loin only weighs about 6 ounces and cooks in seconds.
    I have tried the heart fried and it was surprisingly tasty and tender. Would probably be good stuffed with sausage meat and apricot or some other fruit. Blackberries are often used with venison too.
     
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    Now you only need some mead to wash it down! I've actually never shot a deer. I was in the woods practicing with a sling when one walked out broadside at 50 ft, buck too. I did consider it but anything less than a solid headshot would have just been wrong.
     
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    The copper in the glue wasn't known about until the arrows discovered in the wreck of the Mary Rose were examined and tested. Before that no surviving medieval longbow arrows had been found and the latrine theory was the most accepted. It's not known whether it was simply a way of disrespecting the French or if it could have been a known cause of infection. Germs were certainly not known about in the time of the Hundred Years War.
     
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    Well that would have been a fantastic anecdote if you'd managed to bring down a buck with a slingshot but you'd have most likely just pissed it off.
     
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    They probably knew it would cause infection but they didn't know about germs.
     
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    I suspect the link between effluence and illness was instinctive rather than scientific (more accurately - philosophical). The thought that bad smells made people sick (or miasma theory) was commonly accepted in medieval times.
     
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    Do you know anything else about the composition or method of making the glue?

    Yeh, I don’t think the microorganisms in fecal matter care what the intent was. They are going to mess people up regardless. :) Gross. Terrible way to die.
     
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    I've done a fair amount of it in the past. Some plants are easy to propagate, others not so much. I always get lots of cuttings to start with. Not so sure about the apple tree. They're tough to get started. I would do the seed, but it hasn't produce any apples lately.

    I've not had luck with azaleas or gardenias. I get them started and they seem to go well, but when I transplant them they die. Guess I need to wait another year or so. On the other hand, I trimmed some branches off a crape myrtle one year, and buried the branches down fairly deep. The next year I had a bunch of new shrubs coming up. I thought they cam from seeds, but when I pulled them up, they were connect to those buried branches. Now all my neighbors have crape myrtles.

    The idea of continuing the life of the tree caught my attention when we were looking at it recently. Imagine a tree that's close over 80 years old going on for another hundred. You don't suppose if I cut off my finger and plant it...oh, never mind.

    Ironic--My daughter had me look out the window just a little while ago, and there were eight deer in the back yard. Now I know why my shrubs have been dying off. I caught the hairy beasts red-handed! If you're hungry, come and get them out of my yard. :)
     
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    All I know about it is from this short clip about the Mary Rose longbows. They only mention copper.
    Interesting watch as they tested the draw on some of the bows since they had so many and even tested one to destruction. The guy doing the testing is the actor who played Sigfreid in ''all creatures great and small''.
     
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    The Indica Azalea is big business near Mobile. Or at least it was. A trick... New growth after blooming is used. It is a semi- hardwood cutting. Pull the new growth down till it snaps. If it doesn't snap it is too early. Root those snapped of pieces. Wait to transfer until root bound in small pots.
     
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    I was going to say that but had second thoughts.
     
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    No one laughed so you were right to have second thoughts.
    I didn't have the strength to resist.
     
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    Buried or planted? might have worked better but it's too late now.
     
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    Probably a stratification issue. Old Johnny’s undertaker probably wasn’t a promologist.
     
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    Had to look up promologist. Even my spell checker doesn't recognise it.
    I had guessed from the context but wanted to make sure.
    It's actually pomologist which explains the spell checker.
    It's nice to learn new words though and in exchange I'll give you Tegestology which was a hobby of mine during my youth. I had over 3000 different ones at one point stuck to my bedroom walls.
     
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    Thanks for being MY spell checker! I only knew of the word because my wife took a lot of upper level botany in college. She can still rattle off Latin names of plants/weeds.

    Of course I had to look up yours. I’ve not ever heard it that I can remember. I bet there is some interesting stuff out there with English sense of humor and all. Do you have any interesting pieces left?
     
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    Sometimes it is better just to admire the beast. Did you look and see it gone?
     
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    No, I had to throw them all away when I left home for college. I actually had 5 or 6 thousand in the end as I ran out of wall space and was also given a friend's collection when he left home. Many of them were humour based and would often come in series from the same brands. All shapes and sizes with some as big as plates.

    After I made that post I actually found a tegestologist's blog site and sent him a message to see if I'd thrown away what would be worth a bit of money now. :) Mine dated from the early '70s to the mid '80s and they were never designed to last so I've often wondered if they would have value these days.
     
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    Yep, it looked at me a bit and walked back in the brush.
    There is a feral population of axis deer on the river here from when a hurricane knocked down fencing at a game ranch, years ago. Saw a huge buck on the river one day, just across from me. Of course I had no gun, could of kicked myself.

    They are considered invasive, fair game any time. He was much bigger than any Fl buck. I wonder can they cross breed with white tails?
     
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    I liked it.
     
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    It was meant for you so I'm pleased.
     
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    I got really close up to a native Roe deer today. It was frozen by the side of a back lane as I drove very slowly past it. Probably only about 10' away.
    I thought it was just another invasive Muntjac at first but it was bigger and had six inch long horns and no tusks like a Munjak.
    Similar to this but less developed antlers as it's still early spring.
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    Muntjacs are odd looking things that don't look much like deer at all, you can just see the tiny white tusk sticking out. I've known of dogs that have been badly hurt by the tusks and one that even died after it had an artery pierced.
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