gun control?

ridiculous. quarantines have been enforced in the usa since before the germ theory of disease was proposed.

A brief history of quarantines in the United States - The Washington Post

 

all govts everywhere issue permits and liscences for anything and everything that is otherwise illegal. You wouldn't say cocaine is legal in the US just because some doctors can get permits for it, right? Guns are illegal for everyone except 'friends of the govt' (the elite class and their henchmen) in most countries. Our elites (and our criminals, in the rare case that a true distinction exists) are jealous of their power monopolies over their peasants and victims and want the same here. Too many would-be peasants here are eager to help them attain it.

 

Felons run the federal government. Washington DC is populated by felons.

Yes, I consider felons to be those in government who have violated and nullified the US Constitution.

 

That's nice of you. I had a stroke last year and even though most of the time you wouldn't know it, I'm not that capable. That's when I bought by first pistol. That's a sense of responsibility, no? The equalizer.

If gays, trans, women, and any other oppressed people carried protection, then we would need "special" exemptions for them would we?

 

Quarantines have been enforced for centuries. :shrugs: But I wasn't talking about quarantines though was I?

 

And...?

I didn't commit any of those shootings and thus any attempts to restrict my ability to exercise my 2nd amendment rights will be met with the utmost resistance.

Are "personal accountability/responsibility" foreign terms for the authoritarian left?

 

i believe you mentioned some non existant individual right to cough on others.

 

If I mentioned such then I'm sure you'll be able to point it out. GL though since I didn't.

 

Drama much? I'm 60, grew up with them in the house, and was trained in how to safely handle them by the time I was 9. I've never known a single person who was killed other than by a suicide, once. As the old saying goes, MY RIGHTS DO NOT END WHERE YOUR FEELINGS BEGIN... embrace that wisdom, it will save us all a lot of heartaches.

 

I na nation of 330 million, it's a rounding error... by far, most of those are either gang-related or suicide. There are hundreds of laws against the crimes that lead to such deaths. They will be no more effective if we make them thousands of laws, all of which are ignored. Drugs have been illegal/outlawed for decades. It'd be very difficult to find a city or town anywhere in the country where they're unavailable. How, do you imagine, it will be any different with guns?
Also, how would the government go about removing the nearly 400,000,000 guns in circulation today? The answer is they won't, they can't. New laws serve only the purpose of exercising control through fear. Step out of line, make the "wrong" comment online, go directly to prison. The only thing such laws will be effective for is creating simmering hate against those who passed them.

 

Well then, good for you. Now you dont need a million new laws to protect yourself (not that they would anyways)

I have no idea what your last sentence is supposed to mean.
You have my sympathies on the stroke, I have care for a survivor, 24/7 for 3 years. She cant even use the toilet without help.

 

Chicago and Detroit aren't going to solve the gun epidemic. The cure has to come at a federal level.

Not much can be done about guns and ammo already circulating. Buy-back programs might be a partial solution to that.. But the real solution will probably take several decades. We just need to start.

Because we will do it. Either because we choose to, or because we suffer a historically bad mass shooting event at a point in time when there happens to be just enough people in power that are not owned by the NRA.

 

No country in the continent (maybe in the world) is going to solve their gun problem until we decide to start solving ours.

On the other hand, you comparing us to underdeveloped nations (including a dictatorship, like Venezuela) is very significant as to how low the bar has been set for us lately.

 

Do you know the difference between “shall issue” and “may issue” in relation to concealed carry permits and licenses to own weapons?

 

The number is not the issue. The fact is that, as there are more shooting incidents, more people than just a "rounding error" are fearful to go out and live their life. Today, school kids are taught to be afraid of their classmates. As are employees in many companies. People are asked to be vigilant of some nut carrying a gun. Actual nuts carrying guns parade in the streets of many cities. Others keep eyeing their fellow passengers on airplanes, buses and trains.

That's fear!

You don't need to get a lot of people killed to make millions afraid of being killed. Their right to live freely, go wherever they want to go, work, study... without fear that some idiot might just go to the corner store, buy a gun, and start shooting because they "had a bad day"; trumps this supposed "right to own guns" that you claim.

 

For what purpose? Murder rates will go up without guns, not down, and the government will have nothing left to fear from the people. A government should always fear its people.

 

Lol, I call BS. I've never met anyone who is always looking around afraid someone is going to shoot them. And most people I know are heavily armed. You must live in an area where there are strict gun laws. Those are the places where you need to watch out. Those are the places where only the bad guys carry guns. A well armed society is a polite society.

 

Are you suggesting illegal guns in Venezuela and El Salvador are coming from the US? If not (because that would of course be ridiculous), how else would you justify our gun rights being tied to their violence problems?

We are, after all, importing many of their refugees and criminals, and every time the left passes a new law, we take another step down the same road those hellish dictatorships took. Besides, they're not so much 'underdeveloped' as they are 'deindustrialized'. Their developement was not too long ago on par with ours, until they decided to embrace authoritatively centralized economies and were predictably robbed by the criminals in and associated with their governments that had all the authority and just 'centralized' all the wealth into the coffers of the criminal elite.

...after the law abiding citizens had turned in their weapons, of course.

 

And that is the number one reason why we should never give up our guns. The government should always fear its citizens.

 

I fixed it for you. I hope you don't mind ;D

 

I like it.

 

The only effective gun control is the ability to put a bullet through the head of a rapist from fifty yards away without spattering excess blood on the person he's currently assaulting. You want to reduce crime and gun crime in the US stop criminalizing law abiding citizens and letting rapists and murderers out of jail.

 

Where does the board stand on domestic violence and gun rights? If you engage in the former is the lose of the latter automatic?

 

not sure what 'the board' is, but aggravated assault (domestic and otherwise) is a felony and conviction of a felony makes a person unable to legally purchase a firearm. This has been the case for a long time...

If you're referring to any and all 'domestic violence', I don't think it would be reasonable that, for example, my ex slapping me that one time before she moved out, should mean she doesn't get to carry a gun to defend herself and the kids ever again, even though it would technically have been 'simple assault' and 'domestic violence' if I had pressed charges...

 

We should be PROUD to sacrifice our lives in the cause of Gun FRREEEDDOOMM [/satire] Just because a law can't work is no reason to assume it's not working.