“Republicans don’t care how many Americans are killed by guns”

“So as we’ve returned to our endless, repetitive cycle of mass shootings — the tip of the gun violence iceberg, the bulk of which is the day-to-day body count - it’s time we force our elected Republicans to admit something. They just don’t care”

“It’s not that they want mass shootings. It just isn’t a problem they think is significant enough to address with any kind of policy initiative.”

“So between mass shootings — the progression of ordinary days in which 40 or 50 Americans are murdered with guns and even more use them to commit suicide — they ignore the issue completely. The status quo is perfectly fine with them.”

“If foreign terrorists with Arabic names killed over 19,000 Americans a year the number of gun homicides in 2020, they’d be calling for the imposition of martial law and the suspension of half the Bill of Rights. But when that number of Americans are killed with guns in ordinary murders and mass shootings, it just doesn’t bother them that much.”

“Then what happens when there’s another mass shooting and they’re forced to talk about it? After a perfunctory nod to “thoughts and prayers” for the victims, they move into anti-gun-control mode. And their arguments against any regulation of firearms are so lame, so illogical, so positively idiotic that it’s almost as though they aren’t even trying.”

“That’s partly because the current legal regime is so hard to defend, and partly because they know they don’t really have to make a compelling case for the status quo. But Republicans know they don’t need to convince anyone they’re right. They just need to push the pro-gun button.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...illed-by-guns/

As harsh as it sounds, it is true, if over four hundred Americans getting shot by one person in one instance, or better yet, four and five year old kids getting massacred by a guy using a semi automatic weapon doesn’t move them to act, nothing will. They just don’t give a damn how many innocent Americans are unnecessarily killed by guns, appears a proven fact at this point

 

How do you think we can stop mass shootings?

 

I suspect that any responses to this fact will be focused on how many of those murders were commited by Black Americans in cities like Chicago, and the fact that - apparently - liberals don't care.

 

I don't care, it's not my problem. I have the right to own firearms and I'm not about to give them up to benefit the weak links in society's chain.

 

We care. The solution to the black market of guns is gun registration and universal background checks. Do I have a your support to save thousands of lives a year?

 

Mental health screening. Most of these mass shooters have mental health issues that show up in high school, and most certainly as a young adult.

 

How do either of the above prevent a person who has murder on their mind, from committing murder?

 

The lack of access to black market guns would greatly reduce deaths, do you not agree? Obviously if someone is dead set on killing someone they can, but 1) the odds go up with a gun, and 2) regular criminal actions escalate much faster with a gun.

 

Sorry if I wasn't more understandable in my post - you are preaching to the choir! I was merely predicting responses from the right.

 

So theft of guns from legal owners would abruptly end because it's registered? Mom or Dad's guns would not be available to other family members? An angry kid wouldn't take a gun from a friend?

Registration does nothing regarding the issue. We already have background checks. So more laws would somehow be successful?

 

Hey it’s a bad look to stand on the graves of dead people and play emotional games to try and strip people who did not kill anyone of their civil rights because you are upset.

We have plenty of laws on the books against murder. Focus your efforts on the perpetrators of violence not on the 99 percent who did not hurt anyone.

 

I love how the whole basis of your argument revolves around you telling other people how they think and/or feel.

 

Do you realize that the term "black market" implies illegal activity in and of itself?

 

1) Not every problem has a solution.
2) Some "solutions" are worse than the problem.

 

The vast majority of illegally acquired guns used in crimes are straw purchases. Basically, someone who can't legally get a gun (either at all, or specifically in their state) will buy that gun from a state where they can get a gun or have someone else buy it for them in a state that doesn't require registration. Universal background checks and registration would make it easier to catch and prosecute these kinds of things.

 

We don't have universal background checks and registration would keep fake thefts / straw purchases off the black market.

As for angry kid taking gun from parent, that is on the parent to secure their guns. Jail them if their kid kills someone with one.

 

I recall that Trump offered the national guard to assist localities address this. We just witnessed what is ostensibly a jihaddits radicalized muslim shoot up the food king in Boulder, and democrats are still insisting this guy was a white supremacist because, you know, all his victims were Caucasian . I agree, there is a horrible number of black on black murders. My little burb has seen several, mass shootings even, by definition where 3 or 4 or more folks were shot. Democrats don't care about this, They actively remove police from the areas where these events happen. One really has to wonder, in fact, do liberals and democrats actually care?

And let us be honest. Lots of this violence occurs in places that have some of the most draconian gun control laws on the books. And yet, the violence still happens. What do we suppose is the reason for this? I believe it demonstrates stuff to fear in those communities which then justifies bleeding the residents with yet more taxes on the empty promises that somehow more tax money will address the violence and the crime. Which, of course, never works.

 

Wow, you are a regular Sherlock Holmes, eh? /sarcasm

 

Where don't we have universal background checks? Every weapon that I've ever obtained required a background check. Every one. So tell us where you believe this doesn't happen.

 

No one is recommending stripping civil rights from anyone. And if the thought of too many gun laws makes your head spin, maybe you should sit this one out. There really are relatively few laws concerning guns considering how many deaths they cause.

 

Perhaps had the Obama administration and that feckless hack Eric Holder not opened up an intentional black market just to test the theory, we wouldn't be in such a mess.

 

So that is all you got? Can't argue against the post so go straight to attacking the poster?

So tell me, how are you planning on making people that already break the law conform to any new law passed?

 

Ill make you a deal. The very second you agree that anyone in this country who votes must pass the same background checks, you got a deal. And when you suggest you're not stripping anyone of their civil-rights, remember you just wrote this.

 

So exactly how does registering a gun do anything to reduce someone from obtaining one? It doesn't. It's a feel good measure, nothing more.

 

It makes it more likely that a straw purchaser will be caught, therefore deterring many of them. Straw purchases from states that don't require registration are difficult to investigate and prosecute, and so they rarely are.