Lindsey Graham says he would defend his home with an AR-15.

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  1. Siskie

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/HuffinCats/status/1376181219608522754

    Two things on this, a comment from each side of the isle:

    1 - I find it interesting that he is getting mocked as a Rambo for his comment. Millions of Democrats own guns specifically for home self defense from intruders; are they all Rambos?

    2 - Lindsey has this cartoonish idea in his head of a slightly lesser armed and bad shot or just armed with brass knuckles and bats gang making its slow way toward his home for him to mow down and show them; as if they are a gang out of a musical or something. I think marauding gangs would also have AR-15s, the numbers and use tactics such as set buildings on fire to get armed people out or they may have SWAT or military experienced members. “Free AR-15, only dropped once”, comes to mind.
     
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    That's why I keep bear traps and starving hyenas on my property...
     
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    I saw that yesterday and thought it was strange for him to say that. For one, until he said it, how would anybody know that he was armed to defend his property? They wouldn't so they wouldn't know to bypass his house.

    Secondly, I believe many gun owners believe they are capable of shooting someone and possibly killing them but all the training goes out the window in a real life threatening situation. Sure, some people take classes and even practice but that is NOT the same as facing an intruder with only seconds to respond. I don't mean this as a reason to take away guns from people but I, like many fellow Americans, am tired of all the mass shootings because someone with a mental illness had access to weapons. It may not be a gun issue directly, but it certainly doesn't help. As usual, neither side is willing to compromise so we are all stuck in the same ridiculous limbo we've always been stuck in.
     
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    An AR-15 is a decent choice. Personally, for inside the home I prefer a shotgun or a pistol, but yeah, an AR is great for it. A buddy of mine has a Saiga 12, a Russian semi automatic shotgun that is basically an AK-47 that fires 12 gauge shells. Fun as hell to shoot on the range, lol. That would be great for home defense as well.
     
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    Graham would shoot himself in the face if he thought it would get him a few extra votes.
     
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    I have a Saiga-12; love it. You can fire heavy loads through it all day long and it is kind to your shoulder. Take that same heavy load and put it in my Coach double barrel and you will be in pain from one shot.
     
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    It's an interesting attitude coming from a man involved in law making. Instead of focusing on laws that would deter home invasions or (horrors) limit their access to guns, he puts his attention on his own ability to defend his castle.
     
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    Limp wrist Lindsey couldn't knock the skin of a rice pudding.
     
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    Why do you call him "Limp wrist"? I saw another poster call him "Lightfoot Lindsey". What's that about?
     
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    Why do you pose it as an either/or? Why can't he do both? And since when do Senators pass local laws concerning local crime and deterring local crime? What type of law are you talking about that the Senate would pass that would "deter" home break ins?
     
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    Please explain
     
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    Yes, thats the principle reason why we have ARs, because the criminals might have them too.
     
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    It is usually used as a slur against homosexuals. And of course, some people use it as a slur against non-homosexuals, as in being a homosexual is a bad thing.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Limp Wrist
     
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    Tried firing my great uncles 8 gauge goose gun back in the day. I was about 14 at the time and about 112. After I got up off the ground picked up the gun and handed it back to him. I told him I think I need to be a bit bigger before I try this again. Uncle Roy looked at and smiled and said that's what I thought the first and only time I shot. Uncle Roy was 5ft tall with his boots on and weighed maybe ten pounds more than I did at the time.
     
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    Anyone who protects their home with a weapon should not be considered a "Rambo". It's silly for anyone to even suggest such.
    That being said....Who are these "marauding gangs" going around invading homes?
    How many times were AR type rifles used in home invasions? Considering people looking to break into homes don't want to attract attention by carrying around a rifle I'm gonna guess it would be a rarity for any home invader to use anything other than a concealable weapon.
     
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    Compromise denotes trade. The question, if compromise is what is sought, is what do you offer in exchange? And I don't mean you and I, thats just an example. What are the gun control advocates offering 2A advocates in exchange for the restrictions they want? Nothing. They demand simply that we give up some rights they think are dangerous instead of all the rights they think are dangerous. That is not 'compromise.' I say mental illness is the problem and more firearm restrictions will solve nothing. If folks wanna try more restrictions, fine, lets make a deal that doesnt require sacrificing more of only my values.

    Here's an example of 'compromise.' Since both shooting violence and violent mental illness are predominantly an urban problem, ban semi auto rifles in any county with an average population density of or higher than 400 people per square mile, and make full auto rifles legal in all county's with an average population density lower than 100 people per square mile. Thats an example of a compromise. If the gun controllers don't like that compromise, then come up with something different. But don't demand we restrict more rights in exchange for nothing and pretend that its us 'refusing to compromise.'

    How bout this one: universal BGCs in exchange for Universal CCW. All states that adopt UBC's have their concealed carry liscences honored in other states that adopt UBC's. That would mean that Floridians, for example, can CC in CA with their FL CCW permits (and vise versa) so long as FL mandates BGC for all gun sales. That would be a pretty good compromise that I think would encentivize most if not all states to get behind, and both sides get something they want in exchange for accepting something they didn't want.
     
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    I take it you never saw the mob that broke down the fence around a couples house in st. Louis and threatened to kill them and their pets and burn down their house?
     
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    Are you talking about the unarmed mob that was walking by the couples home to get to Krewson's home to protest? The couple claimed those threats were made. However, there is no evidence of such.
    So far no home invasions by "marauding gangs".
     
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    They weren't walking by they were walking through... And their is a video...
     
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    Bwahaha, that's hilarious! You're uncle is kind of an ass though, lol. I've never fired and 8 gauge, but i'm sure it kicks like a mule.
     
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    Passing by or cutting through on way to Krewson's. The mob was wrong to cut through but that's all they were doing. They didn't invade anyone's home. Which is what is being discussed.
     
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    Homophobic much? Does it make you believe you're more manly because you can call someone out as a homo? What does it say about most of the democratic leadership who have to hide behind their security details? Since you brought it up.
     
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    What does this have to do with the claim about "marauding gangs" invading homes with ARs?
     
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    My grandpa had a single barrel break action 10 guage. I always wanted to shoot it, but alas my mom and his other two daughters got a bit bickery over his estate and most of his guns ended up at an auction that ended up being held during hurricane Katrina and sold for peanuts because almost no one was there. :cool:

    Fortunately he gave me his Ruger .357 Security 6, Remington 1100 12 and 20 ga and a Marlin .357 levergun before he passed, so not all was lost :D. They will never be sold.
     
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