What's Wrong with saying "God Bless America"?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Libhater, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    Ever read it. Even provides instructions for beating slaves.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you trying to win some competition with your post count or something?
     
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    Exactly right. The OP and others like him want christian prayers in schools. Except that public schools have kids of all different religions. Seems the OP and company thinks it's ok to force their religion onto others. But as you point out, if kids had to also recite any prayers from other religions the OP and company would lose their minds.
     
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    Show me from the OP or any other one of my numbered posts in this thread where I said I want Christian prayers in schools. Show me where I said its okay to force a religion on others.
     
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    If there is no god, why waste time pretending there is?
     
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    If you're not interested in prayer that what is it you're complaining about being removed in regards to "God being removed from our schools"
     
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    I agree with you on this issue Libhater. Nevertheless, I think that people who define themselves by those they like are better people than those who define themselves by those they hate.
     
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    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    Couldn't agree more.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    did you have something to add to the topic? or just trying to up your post count?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no issue with you saying "in God we Trust", I do have issue with government pushing that "in NO God we Trust" or "in God we trust" on our children in public schools

    just like if someone puts the Confederate flag on their own lawn, it's not the same as the government putting it on the Statehouse lawn
     
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    Anyone who can explain to me how this:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

    Means that there shall be no prayer in school without saying “well the Supreme Court said so” and can actually provide their reasoning will get a gold star.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if your using the power of your position in a school to push Religion on children, you're using the tax payer dollars to do it
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one is saying no prayer in school, your kids can pray all they want, but a Muslim teacher can not force your children to say their prayers and pray with them

    Christian infighting is why religion was removed from schools... because the tax payers are funding the schools, if you want that, can go to a private school that is NOT funded by the tax payers
     
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    That doesn’t answer the question. How does the constitution stating that CONGRESS cannot create a law establishing or prohibiting religion... in ANY WAY mean that teachers at schools can’t say prayer in class. Or have posters of quotes from Jesus or bibles in their classrooms? Or yes even Mohammad?
     
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    they are not doing either, they are remaining neutral by not allowing government officials to push religion on our children

    it's sad that some Christians see remaining neutral as being anti-Christian
     
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    But that’s not what the constitution says. The constitution explicitly declares that CONGRESS... not the president, not state or local officials, not the SCOTUS, not government agencies, not entities that take government funding, not public schools, not teachers who work at or students who attend public schools... explicitly and SOLELY Congress.

    And what does it say CONGRESS cannot do? Does it say congress can’t put up statues of Jesus or Buddha all over the halls of their offices? Does it say they can’t put up a statue of the 10 commandments behind the speaker? Does it say they can’t use religious precepts as their justification on the floor for voting for a bill?

    No. It says specifically that congress cannot do two things. Congress cannot create a law establishing or prohibiting religion. That’s it. Nothing more. Nothing less. Your side has extrapolated this out to mean that Government and any entity which uses government funding can have no official position on religion.

    But that is NOT what the constitution says.
     
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    Exactly so. And if there is a God, the scientific proof of this God can be taught in a science class.
     
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    The earlier childhood brainwashing can start, the more effective it is. Ergo, brainwashing in schools is something many people want. Religious brainwashing does not belong in school, but neither does Communist political brainwashing such as the critical race theory BS. Schools should be teaching Math, Science, English, real history and critical thinking.
     
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    free speech is not limitless when it comes to public buildings, try proselytizing in a court room non-stop during someones trial, see what happens

    no one wants others proselytizing their kids while they are at school, that is why Christians that were infighting at the time agreed that you could not use federal tax dollar to proselytize other peoples children

    if you want that, send your kids to sunday school, sure not all sunday schools molest children, just interview them well.. or better yet, teach your children religion yourself
     
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    agree, and they should expel racists, bullies, ect....

    back in my day, no one even thought about race until our school showed us the movie roots in grade school, that was awkward for all races and I do not think should have been shown, maybe when older, like high school in history, but not grade school
     
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    other than it being dumb, nothing

    why the meltdown?
     
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    Remember the flood.
     
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    So then why did the founders allow it in their schools?
     
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    did the founders have government run schools... the founders were ok with slavery too, times change

    why do you need public schools to teach your kids your religion, is that something you or the many churches around you, are not able to do? or is it that you want them to try and brainwash other peoples children to believe your religion?

    Christians of that past had much infighting among sects, they did not want the government pushing their version of Christianity on their children
     
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    Who is the god of Liberals?
    Satan aka Marx, Lenin, Mao, Hitler & Co
    It would be very naive to suppose this people will accept things related to the True God
     

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