US Celebrities party maskless in Australia while Australians are stranded.

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  1. bigfella

    bigfella Well-Known Member

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    The fact that you were more interested in putting the pretty pictures in your post than reading the article 100% proves mine - not only are you too ignorant on this issue to be commenting on it, but you couldn't even be othered properly reading the one source of information you did have.

    You should go back to embarassing yourself on US politics, at least it is home territory.
     
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    Again, they are not stranded. They have CHOSEN to wait out the pricier tickets and the mandatory quarantine. Some have even said they waited because they didn't know when they'd be able to travel again, so they wanted to stay as long as possible - I kid you not! I personally know a family 'stranded' overseas, and they've made it very difficult for themselves by continuously putting off their return. They could have come back many times in the past twelve months, but each time they'd decide to enjoy where they are a bit longer, and wait for 'better conditions' (AKA, no mandatory quarantine and cheap tickets). They're frustrated and angry now, but by their own hand. They assumed that the world would be ready for them when they were finally ready, and it wasn't.

    Those who've been repatriated were not in that situation - their need (rather than just a preference) was urgent and genuine.
     
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  3. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you disagree with the article that used the word "stranded". I'm not saying the article is right. I'm just stating what it said.
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The article says tens of thousunds are stranded. If you disagree with the article that's fine. I'm not saying the article is correct.
     
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    Of course they're going to use emotional language. That's how media operates.
     
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    The article didn't post itself on this forum and then proceed to make up a bunch of stuff that was blatantly untrue. Hiding behind an article you didn't even read properly won't save you.

    You created a thread based on ignorance and then doubled down. I can recall a time when ignorance was something people saw as a flaw needing correction. Over the past 2 decades conservatives have encouraged people to not only flaunt their ignorance, but take pride in it. You are a perfect example of this culture.
     
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    No conservative will admit they are wrong!!!!

    And I am betting you are right he thought “Liberal Government meant democrats
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said anything about the government being associated with any party.
     
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    “Liberals are full of double standards”. Now we’re you referring to our conservative government or your Democratic Party?
     
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    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was referring to the Hollywood celebrities as liberals.

    If I worded that wrong and you thought I was referring to Australia I apologize. I have no idea what thier political party is.
     
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    How could they have a 'double standard' when they are obeying the laws of the country they are in? Are they supposed to follow US rules when they are in another nation? Do you, or do you follow the rules of the place you are in? Simple question, should have a simlpe answer.
     
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    your assumptions are that australia is "liberal, " denied by our forum australians, and that these american "celebrities" (and "hollywood" itself) are "liberal."

    is hollywood liberal?

    1. the studios are corporations, most owned by foreign corporations. they are capitalist for profit enterprises.
    2. the biggest stars are unabashedly conservative. john wayne, clint eastwood, chuck norris, stallone, schwarznegger, reagan, fred thompson, - all are/were big conservatives.
    many of the others are christian or scientologist true believers.
    3 most movies glorify war and violence and feature guns.
    4. even "chick flicks" are based on traditional values of love and romance.

    are you basing your characteruzation as "liberal" on barbra streisand's political contributions?
     
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    I agree with Bigfella - what rules? We only intermittently need to wear masks because we do not have the out of control mess that was Trump’s “i didn't listen to the experts” America
     
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    But they would NEVER use emotional language regarding our beloved Covid Narrative....:lol:
     
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    Do you mean the COVID Australia is mostly free from (to the point that life has returned to pre-pandemic conditions and the economy is booming), and that is still plaguing America and impacting every facet of daily lives?
     
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    No, I'm talking about the massive fear-mongering effort by governments around the world, except for Sweden and Nicaragua and a few African countries.

    I'm talking about the domestic terrorism brought by Canberra and the various state governors, and of course most other governments of the world.

    I'm talking about the 'crisis' created by the media and WEF.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    I live in a city over a million in the Congo. We count our cases as dozens (3) and could count them on our fingers if not for the UN that has it's own planes and doesn't check it's people with the same rigor as our airlines.
    We went into Ebola mode, no handshakes and constant hand washing immediately back in January when it began to hit Europe. Travel, sports, schools, restaurants, bars and churches were next when the first case hit here. Commerce was still transported but no passengers.

    Now, still wash your hands and masks in certain places but not many. Definitely if you visit the UN. Churches, schools and bars are open. Testing if you even just visit a hospital. All passengers on all non-UN flights are tested.

    Are we proud? Yep. Do we give a **** that someone says we, like New Zealand are proof it doesn't exist as a danger? Nope. Actually they make us sad that some lazy people are that foolish. We chose to do the work, we reap the benefits. We do feel sorry for those that have to suffer prolonged exposure because of those idiots that refuse to do the work, simple as getting a shot, but after enough of them die life will get back to normal.
     
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    Thank you! Very well said.

    It's a tragic kind of foolishness - I suspect driven by the despair at realising your Govt has no interest in protecting the nation. To suddenly find out that you live in a place that despite immense wealth can't organise a crap in a toilet, has to be a huge blow. It must make Americans (and Europeans) wonder if they're in reality no better off than the very chaotic and corrupt poorest nations .. where human welfare and economies come last.

    When poor but well run nations (Vietnam, for example) kick COVID to the kerb without anything like the resources America has, they have to be incredibly bitter - at the very least.
     
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    So something other thing then? Nothing to do with the corona virus allowed free rein in America and Europe, and which has killed and disabled millions?
     
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    That's a beautiful recitation of Fauci Fear Factor talking points, dreadfully inaccurate.
     
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    It's alright Love, we understand the bitterness and envy. I'd feel exactly the same way, if I was American. I'd be ranting about conspiracies and the loss of freeeedums from pillar to post, because that'd be all I have.
     
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    To be fair, pretty much the entirety of the Western World ****ed up.
     
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    True

    Sometimes the “I don wanna give up mah freedumbs” people forget they live in a society and there are certain things that have to be observed for the good of everyone
     
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    I suspect they had to run with that trope to save face (no mask pun intended). Americans aren't stupid - they know they ****ed up. Besides, Europeans are considered model Govts and citizens when it comes to social responsibility, yet they ****ed up just as good.

    The COVID response has had nothing to do with politics, we know that now. Every political iteration is represented in both the winners group, and in the losers group (eg our own Righty Govt went full socialist, and some Lefty nations went full 'every man for himself'). In the end it was about testicular fortitude on the part of Govt, and a citizenry invested in genuine social responsibility, rather than the - what turned out to be - token social responsibility of the First World West.
     
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