Trump campaign issued $122 million in refunds to donors in 2020

The ATF Form 4473 is a transfer form. It’s not a registration form. Besides, once you initiate and get the final results and complete the transaction are you now claiming you have to show any ID to use the service of the firearm ? Seriously, you sound like you never bought a firearm. Never heard of such a silly thing.....except from a novice non firearm person.

 

Best to send it to his PAC because that was set up in a fashion that's it's not actually his money but only he can spend it on pretty much anything he wants. Sure, he won't own the boat that he has, nor the mansion, nor the plane but only he decides their use. Tax free no less. Cool deal huh?

 

Trump pulled the same sht when he was required to pay restitution on his Trump U fraud case. He only agreed to pay a certain percent of the full amount. He still made money. The students are so fking happy to get anything back, they sign off on it. So even after a successful suit, sounds like they are still getting screwed. But they never learn. Trumpers all have a hard on for this fat, bald. lying, criminal, degenerate, supremacist.

 

Wonder if he can use the money to pay off prostitutes, again.

 

I read about it the other day when I posted so this may not be exact. My understanding of it was they added some kind of tick box that was pre-checked so the user had to uncheck that box to make it a ONE time donation. Many complainants said they didn't see the tick box which lead me to believe it was in a smaller font and/or a lighter color. They didn't show a screen shot of it in the article so it's hard to know exactly how it was displayed.

The main issue is that it authorized the payments WEEKLY (not monthly as some posters have said) so people were coming up short on their monthly bills quickly.

 

Seriously, are you claiming the GOP in any administration is as organized as organized crime ? They can’t even write out a platform for an election. It sounded pretty much like , “ do what Trump wants” for their platform. They lost the election because the smarter of Trump supporters, like a lot of women, were tired of getting fked by Trump and the gop.

 

Read that too. I also heard it’s still open for business that way. Of course, I’m not going there on line to check. It’s like being too close to a watering hole for losers.

 

This is what I don't understand. This isn't a one-off. His whole Modus Operandi is stealing. How in the world can people still defend him as being anything other than a thief? Anybody else would have been thrown under a prison by now.

 

It’s not much different then being in any cult. If you question the Donald you lose your right to get screwed.

 

THIS^

Trump has been defrauding thru his “charity” his entire life. He got called out when he ran for President, was found to have defrauded, and the “charity” was permanently closed, and Trump, and his children, were not allowed to be on the board of any “charity” for life. That’s a pretty big deal..........but the righties here think that he didn’t do anything like that here......that “cannot be true”.....all the while screaming about the Clinton Foundation......

Please donate to the Trump campaign here - “yourarube.org”

 

Ah, but it was you who proclaimed Dems to be smart. And now, the enlightened "smart" Dems pushing into the law that chickens must be at least 2 years old to be eaten, the cows must be at least 5 years old, and those very same "smart" Dems want to equate artificial insemination with sex with animals. Thank you but NO thank you - I don't want to be THIS smart.

As for Obama in a tan suit, I thought he kinda looked cute in it... not as cute as in Muslim garb, but still cute

 

Ha ha
You’ll have to read my post again and this time for understanding. I asked the question .
Are you now claiming democrats are too smart to get caught or are Republicans much more criminal in their behavior ? You can’t have it both ways. I’m personally registered as an independent because the doo doo bird has bitten more then a few Dems.
Some actually believed Bush when he claimed he had more evidence of wmd and Signed on. They believed Reagan and his great society deficit ridden promise among other things.

So no, I’m not a Dem. But at least they occasionally make a lot of sense compared to astoundingly delusional and full bore criminal Trump lead GOP. The facts are there. Everything from recessions to deficits and total incompetence in covid now, the gop has forced everyone with the intellect more then a mature cucumber to side with them. Many Dems supporters including my self never claimed to be that particularly bright and but the alternative of the gop now is totally bonkers. Even the neighborhood dogs wears blue election time.

 

After reading more, I learned that the tick box was there - from the start - saying it would be a monthly donation. That changed to weekly - so they did alter the site to their own benefit. In fact, they changed up that small print section quite significantly over time.

 

I wonder why lottsa Dems refuse to admit to being a Dem?

 

Probably because we aren’t. Is it beyond understanding that two confirmed indies caucus with the Dems because the alternative is SO BAD it’s hideous to do otherwise. The largest number of registered voters are independents. Get with the program. The gop has been under a rock for decades.

 

Trump the loser lost by the greatest margin ever...because independents voted for Dems.

 

Exactly. But you can bet any of these cool ideas weren’t his. He’s had to hire out to get any original thought beyond grabbing you know what and bragging about it.

 

Any credit card holder can recover their money when their card was used fraudulently. It is the "merchant" that pays for the fraud. The merchant has little say in the process. The bank that issued the credit card is the decision maker so it is not really a fair system for the merchant. Pre-checking the recurrent payment option is wrong but very common. It should be illegal in my view. There is a good bipartisan bill that doesn't cost federal government a nickel.

Few people are aware of how common credit card fraud is. I see it every single day but I'm able to catch it most of the time before I ship anything. Since the merchant pays for the fraud and doesn't normally have the money or time to go after frauds, it isn't normally investigated, let alone reversed.

 

I forgot to include something in my definition of voter fraud. Failing to submit a legal ballot is also voter fraud. That is something that ballot harvesting makes easy.

 

What is failing to submit a legal ballot? Can you give an example, please?

 

Sure. Some states allow ballot harvesting or allowing people to collect ballots from voters and take them to the polls. It is easy to discard those that don't vote the way the harvester likes. I have no idea how much of this takes place but it doesn't make sense to make it easy to do.

 

There’s no shame in being a Democrat. You’re not alone

 

“Forgetting” to turn in a harvested, Republican ballot.

 

Oh, I see what you mean. The way it's worded made me think you meant a person is committing fraud by not participating in the voting process (as in "failing" to do something). As with most things, criminals will always find a way to work around the law.

Quick look at ballot harvesting: https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_harvesting_laws_by_state

 

There’s no such thing as an independent, there are people without convictions.