Biden may restart construction on the border wall

Coming here for a better life is not an asylum claim. And do you ever tire of the constant evidence free race baiting?

 

Correct. So, are all these people committing fraud by claiming they are political refugees? And, what would constitute being a political refugee if one is leaving a totally corrupt system overrun by drug and trafficking cartels does not?

 

Well asylum claims are determined by judges, not the claimants themselves, so they are simply making a claim, so I'm not sure it's fraud on their part, but asylum is based on persecution on:

Membership in a particular social group;
Nationality;
Political opinion;
Race; or
Religion.

Since we're mostly talking about Central American refugees here, none of those countries are engaged in any active persecution on these areas (that I'm aware of). Being poor, no opportunities, or high crime are not asylum claims.

 

The problem is that there are three separate immigration issues at play on the Southern Border.

1) The need to control and regulate the passage of goods and people over a border. The security issue.
2) The need for imported workers to fill chronic labor shortages in key industries (primarily agriculture). The labor issue.
3) The need assess and triage applications for refugee status. The humanitarian issue.

Three distinct problems that require three distinct solutions.

But instead of recognizing them as distinct everyone treats them as the one issue all mixed together. So everyone piles in and criticizes any proposal to address one problem on the false assumption its addresses ALL of them. Support building a wall because your concerned about the security issue, you get criticized for being anti-human rights. Support a guest labor scheme because you work in agriculture, you get attacked for wanting to let in hoards of 'foreigners' even though locals won't do the work. Support a greater refugee intake and you get accused of wanting to let in criminals.

So break it down, built the wall where possible and take other methods to improve security/fight crime at the border. Create a viable guest labor scheme for vetted applicants working on fixed term labor contracts who don't get all their pay until they return home but who now have a regular, reliable source of income they won't want to lose. Set a reasonable (negotiated) number to your national refugee, vet those refugees properly and stick to that number. Point is you won't solve any one problem without addressing all three simultaneously. Trumps 'wall' didn't solve the refugee issue, Biden's policies on refugees won't solve security. And since I don't see either of them out in the fields picking fruit the labor issue needs to be attended to as well.

 

We already have low skilled and agricultural visa programs, so the labor issue is taken care of, if employers want to go through the paperwork of requesting visas (they don't).

 

Biden in a just a couple of days cancelled out at least 50 of Trumps executive orders including building the wall and all that Trump did to stop the massive infiltration of illegal aliens. "Stupid is as stupid does."

 

WALLS — THEY’RE NOT JUST FOR CAPITOL HILL ANYMORE: More Vindication for Trump as Biden Admin Considers Resuming Border Wall Construction.

When you’ve lost Bret Stephens…: Biden should finish the wall — or the next Trump will.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/442575/

People are very interested in the Biden Border Catastrophe.

What do you think?

 

Which implies something is wrong with the scheme, its scale, complexity or cost etc because complaints by potential employers are still being made.

 

I dont think they expected anything at all from a Biden admin. They would've voted for a wet sock if it got the bad orange man away. And I know it sounds like Im being critical, but all I was expecting from Trump was for him to not be Clinton (and he succeeded!). I'd merely hoped for more... but thats how partisan politics 'works'.

 

I know the Obama Admin wasn't open borders. Biden and his boss, Obama, were deporting people by the bucket loads.

No one ever supported the wall until Trump though. Trump also did a good job of working with Mexico in securing the border on our end as well as in Central America.

I am glad Biden is seeing the light. As long as he makes good change, I won't hold it against him for his initial bad decisions. Arguably though, this is from Kamala. They probably had Kamala handle all this because the democrats made it a race issue now and White Boy Biden is too white to oppress brown people like that.

 

I think Biden should have Mexico pay for it.

EVERYTHING IS GOING SWIMMINGLY: 2 Yemeni men on the FBI’s terrorism watch list were caught after illegally entering the U.S. via the Mexican border.

 

I think that if this is true, a big factor in his decision was the fine coverage for several weeks running by Sharyl Attkisson on Full Measure.

I think the wall is a huge waste of money and time. Just as locks keep out only honest burglars, walls don't work either.

 

Yup he is on record too

 

So they can't control cartels in their country and run away to another.. You couldn't ask for a more polar opposite then Americans..

 

So why don't they simply request the U.S. help them take back there country.. Sounds cowardly to me!

 

When Mexico will pay for this wall?

 

I don't know enough about their system of government to answer this. I can only guess there has to be a reason they haven't done that.

 

That was a statement made by former President Trump. We would have to ask him that question.

 

Because it's not as bad as they claim and that's why the U.S. allowed only a dozen if that entry on those grounds.. If it were a humanitarian issue there would be bleeding hearts all over their country as we have seen in Africa..

 

Much of the numbers game you claim "Buckets" involved changes to how the deportations were classed while he was President. You don't gain the numbers of Illegal entries/residency by deporting buckets of them

Report: 2.5 Million New Illegal Immigrants Have Entered U.S. Since Obama Took Office

 

Well yeah. What's wrong is that under the visa program they have to provide a decent wage and living conditions, and if they're illegal, you don't. So illegal workers are naturally preferable. If one gets sick or has an accident on the job, just bury them with a backhoe and move on; no pesky OSHA inspectors.

 

As you can see from post #32, Wall and Trump critic Stephens has no problem changing his position on the wall now that it would be Biden's.

it was never about policy.

 

What you don't recognize are the vast differences between the dubiously legal misappropriation of funds directed at the construction of an ineffectual wall................https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/10/texas-border-wall-lawsuit/

..................and Biden's apparent decision to move forward with what effectively are repairs to the existing wall. So....."it's different when we do it'.........is a mischaracterization of what's happening...........which for you is perfectly consistent with most of your posts.

 

If the wall is ineffectual, then why is Biden repairing or adding to it?

 

Speaking of hypocrisy, “He Biden) was in the Congress a long time,” Blunt said in an interview. “He knows it’s the Congress' job to authorize how the money is spent and the president's job to spend it efficiently."

This, after Trump usurped Congress' authority to appropriate funds when he deceitfully declared an emergency at the border.