Just watched full episode of the Daily Show to get alt perspective (HOLY SPIN)

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trevor is a pretty funny guy, unfortunately, the show is filled with SPIN and TWISTING of truths.
    Here's what happened:

    1) he ripped on a Tucker Carlson segment regarding an Airline company's decision that 50% of their workforce has to be either minority or female by a certain time.
    Tucker goes on usual rant about how this stuff should not be race based and should be qualification based (makes sense)
    Trevor Noah spins this into "Tucker Carlson says black people cannot be good pilots because they are BLACK" (not what he said at all but I can see how his fans would eat this up)

    2) Trevor starts blasting republicans on Trans issues, specifically with regards to them wanting to stop this puberty blocker thing for CHILDREN that THINK they want to be a different gender. Not ONE mention by Trevor about how there is no going back from this kind of treatment and how they should be making these choices as ADULTS. Instead he spins it as republicans being scared of trans people which isn't what the original topic was about it all. It was about CHILDREN.

    Conclusion: This show is much, much dirtier than FOX, like many other Lefty shows I try to give a chance. Sadly it seems the left values drama over common sense. I'm not sure how the tainted left cant' see right through this.

    SAD!
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If one looks at the number of fatal airline accidents in the past few years, there appears to be an alarming correlation between diverse pilots and fatal outcomes. Note that has probably more to do with the 3rd world standards of the pilots from 3rd world nations.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft

    I can't imagine 1st world countries dropping standards of performance to get diverse pilots given the devastating financial consequences of incompetent pilot performance. I am therefor not too worried about this issue. It would be impossible for an airline to stay in business if it used race instead of performance as a hiring metric for their pilots.
     
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    I don't know if any of the Leftist media even believe the nonsense they spout, I do believe controversy get's them more views. Gutfeld had a few comments on that
     
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    Hello. You realize this is a comedy show, right? And that Trevor is just an entertainer, right?

    Saddest thing I see around here are right wingers who confuse news reporters with entertainers and OP ED talking heads.
    Fox, CNN, CNBC ... any of the 24 hr. cable networks are 90% entertainment channels. The are not "News". Hannity is
    not a news reporter - he is an entertainer. Trevor is not a news reporter, he is a comedian, and as such will exaggerate
    stories to enhance a punch line. Is what it is.
     
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    I suppose it just depends on outcomes. And for companies like United, if they can fill seats with qualified folks, more power to them. The issue then is different. It speaks to quotas and unfair hiring standards that artificially discriminate against other qualified candidates because there is an express preference in hiring. Of course companies will get challenged in courts, and as with other preference based hiring practices, courts will smack them down.
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Again, it's a COMEDY show - not a news report. God's you guys be confused about the difference between "entertainment" and "news".
    I bet you think Fox and CNN are news stations.
     
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    The Daily Show is a COMEDIC program, using news stories, NOT a News show, incorporating comedy. You might as well be reviewing Saturday Night Live's, "Weekend Update," sketch. Is FOX & FRIENDS supposed to be political or news lampoonery?

    If you can only take your, "lefty," news commentary with a bit of comedy, you might try Seth Myers' late night talk show, on NBC. He often covers serious news (political) issues near the top of his program.
     
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    Sometimes, people are so filled with hatred they are blinded to anything that might disrupt their skewed world view.
     
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    You DO realize The Daily Show is a comedic show, right? What's people like Carlson, Hannity, Maddow and such excuse?
     
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    If haven't watched a full episode of the Daily Show in years, only the occasional clip on Youtube so I can't really speak to the current state of the show but I think it is wrong for you to compare the Daily Show to Fox. Jon Stewart said something years ago that to Tucker Carlson when Tucker compared his show to Stewart's that really applies in this case. I am paraphrasing since I am going from memory: "I follow puppets that make crank calls and you following the news".

    EDIT: My memory was a bit off but the gist of the quote is correct. I found the full clip on Youtube for anyone that wants to watch it.

     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For everyone with the super LAME defense of "its a comedy show"..its a show that regurgitates failed CNN talking points with a comedic spin. You know the show is not just "comedy". its clearly political.
    Comparing it to SNL is a weak analogy. Try harder! My point has been proven and the pathetic defense attempts in here are CLEAR PROOF of this.

    Thank you
     
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    Comparing anything to what Tucker Carlson says is problematic. His own company uses the “any reasonable person” defense in court. As in any reasonable person knows Tucker spews BS nightly.

    If you’re seeking clarity on an issue you should know Tucker is the BS culture war entertainment version to disregard in your search for clarity.

    The Daily Show is there to ridicule—translate—Tucker for comedic effect. They do a good job of it as you pointed out:)
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What? That sounds like some liberal nonsense when you have no ACTUAL rebuttal to my FACTS - FAIL #1
    Huh? Sounds like more big liberal words with ZERO FACTS. Trouble with thread topic?

    how is that "doing a good job"? They twisted a very common sense thing he said into something 100% different

    Your comment prove most of you live in a dream world and don't accept reality.
    I feel sorry for you.
     
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    I disagree with you on this topic. Comedy always makes fun of something. Whether it is politics, current events, people, racial stereotypes, appearance etc... Comedy needs a catalyst. The Dailyshow focuses on politics and news stories. The show may have a political slant but it is not right to group it with shows like Hannity, Maddow, or Tucker. To say they are the same is really an insult to the journalistic news shows. Watch the Stewart clip I posted in my last reply. He goes into this a great detail about your topic.
     
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    The difference I think is that at least the Daily Show isn't trying to hide the fact that it is meant to be entertainment and not news. I mean, I'm sure they understand that much of their audience consumes it as news anyway, and are plenty happy to further political agenda by doing so. But FOX is no less in the business of entertainment, and while they're spin might a bit less severe (if so, only a bit), FOX is actually presenting itself as news. Though, as I type this, I think I'm being a bit overly technical and this distinction lacks any real difference. They're both insidious propaganda, just different flavors that appeal to different methods of indoctrination and misinformation. Its like trying to decide which is more disgusting- rotting roadkill or fresh diarrhea.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comedy MAKES FUN OF THINGS, not completely twists and contorts the facts into something completely different. Sorry but I'm still right. I can group it with whatever shows I want. The daily show talks about politics just as much as the other news shows you mentioned.
     
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    Really, you can not think of comedy or jokes that completely contorts the facts into something completely different? Also the length of time a show talks about is topics is probably still not the proper way to categorize them. The Art Bell show used to spend hours a night talking about space and science. Does not make it a science show.
     
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    Well, not really. They're committing to making flight school available to qualified candidates who may not otherwise have had the resources to attend.

    United Sets New Diversity Goal: 50% of Students at New Pilot Training Academy To Be Women and People of Color
    United Airlines is only major U.S. airline to own flight school: United Aviate Academy
    April 06, 2021

    CHICAGO, April 6, 2021 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines, the only major U.S. airline to own a flight school, will begin accepting applications today as it embarks on an ambitious plan to train 5,000 new pilots by 2030, at least half of them women and people of color. Backed by scholarship commitments from United Airlines and JPMorgan Chase, United Aviate Academy will create opportunities for thousands of students, including women and people of color to pursue a career as a commercial airline pilot, one of the most lucrative careers in the industry.

    In addition, for those United Aviate Academy students who may need additional financing, United has partnered with Sallie Mae to offer private student loans to ensure that no highly-qualified, highly-motivated, eligible applicants will be turned away solely because they can't afford to enroll. United Aviate Academy expects to enroll 100 students in 2021.
    https://hub.united.com/2021-04-06-u...-be-women-and-people-of-color-2651374725.html
     
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    Sorry, dude....it's a FAIL. But this does reflect a lot about you and your "thinking".
     
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    LOL... At least we can always count on your inability to address an issue. Can United produce their quote using they rown academy? Can you explain why it already doesn't? Hard questions. So show me that when a class of 40 graduate, and held have to be women or minorities that those are also the top of their class? Evidence? Data to support that? I doubt it. But hey, according to you, that's "fair"... And of course, put them in debt cause Joe is paying off their loans... how astoundingly convenient...
     
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    NOT RACE BAITING. He contorted it into more lies about "racism"...that's a touchy subject and not exactly something that has a place in comedy. I'm sorry you cannot call it and/or see it for what it really is
     
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    No weaker than analogizing it with any of FOX's pundits.

    How has your, "point been proven," as this is your 1st post since your OP, which was nothing but your subjective opinion, devoid of even any examples?

    I didn't consider my post a defense of the Daily Show, which I don't generally watch, anyway, but rather, an explanation to you, in case you didn't realize that, even though the humor has a political theme, it is not intended as a program to inform people of the news. The humor generally works better, in fact, if the viewer has some familiarity with the material, already.

    For example, consider Steve Martin's inside joke for plumbers:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=steve+matin,+plumber+joke&oq=steve+matin,+plumber+joke&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.22515j0j4&client=ms-android-americamovil-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:e9916c73,vid:-DvJHhAY9Qc,st:0


    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FMAF6BAgDEB0&usg=AOvVaw3v2A_nwbzYtXe8u1ErhR8n

    I have occasionally watched a segment of Noah's show. The funniest bit I've seen was him interviewing his Australian twin brother (played by Noah). Does Hannity do impressions?

    So is, "The Capitol Steps," comedy troupe, and that other guy, as well, all of whose material are political songs, like The Filibuster Rag, or whatnot-- they're only funny if you have some idea of what they're about (even then they're not that funny, IMO).



    But literally no serious person would accept the idea of The Daily Show being informative news, or serious political commentary. Some comedians, even on stage, just like to focus on political humor. It's in the same class with Jay Leno's old Tonight Show monologues.

    There is one show, done by a, "comedian," that I think some consider serious. Again, I don't watch it, but it's Bill Mahr's show (which used to be called Politically Incorrect). I only saw it when he started out, which was many years ago, basically just a panel discussion w/ a bunch of actors & so forth, and it was horrible. Maybe it's improved over all these years.
     
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    OP: I’m going undercover to see what the other side thinks. Spinning is bad.

    Also: THEy Re SpINnINg My StOrIEs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Do you have a link to a video of the segment? Like I said, I have not watched the Dailyshow in years so can not speak to your example. I do agree jokes on racism or race is a touchy subject. It is difficult to pull off well. Russell Peters have made a career from doing a great job at it but even he faces criticism from time to time.
     

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