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  1. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    LOL! You imagine that "People were mailed ballots but choose not to mail them back in" without any evidence. ;-)

    REAL CLEAR POLITICS, 28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections, By Mark Hemingway, April 24, 2020. (emphasis mine)
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...t_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html#!

    What is the difference between "went missing" and "vanishing"?
    Is it the same as the difference between the definitions of "is"? ;-)

    Focus: America has always been notorious for election fraud. We have a very long uninterrupted history of vote fraud and election rigging.

    Just ask a Sanders voter how that works.
     
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    Well yes, the RCP article was also overly dramatic, that you fell for it is not really my concern.

    Just total and complete bullshit. Our system makes it possible for some small scale fraud to take place like the ones you have linked to, but also makes it impossible for wide spread or massive fraud to take place.

    You are just pissing in the wind here buddy
     
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    LOL! There have been no full due process hearings into the integrity of the last election.
    Not one.

    Your source, the Heritage Foundation, was able to easily document 1300 cases of vote fraud over 25 years, and admit their research was not very thorough. Even 50 cases of vote fraud a year is massive vote fraud.

    So, I ask again: "Now, what is the percentage of reported fraud cases that remain unsolved by law enforcement?" Ddy
     
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    LOL! IOW, you reject my documentation of what should be obvious in favor of your own unsupported opinion.

    It doesn't take a weather man to see which way the wind is blowing.
    And who is really pissing into it. ;-)

    Why deny what everyone already knows?

    “Since the country's colonial days, concerns of voter fraud have inspired ever-more complicated ways to cast one's ballot. Depending on where you live, you may vote tomorrow with a lever, a punch card, a marker or a touchscreen. As election scholar Andrew Gumbel notes, the U.S. has been both a "living experiment in the expansion of democratic rights" and a "world-class laboratory for vote suppression and election-stealing techniques.”
    TIME MAGAZINE, A BRIEF HISTORY OF, Ballots in America, By M.J. Stephey Monday, Nov. 03, 2008.
    http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1855857,00.html
     
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    you can keep posting that same link till the cows come home, all it does is prove me correct.

    our decentralized system makes wide spread voter fraud virtually impossible.
     
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    there have been over 60
    demonstrably false
    not by any stretch of the definition, is 1,300 cases over 25 years out of hundreds of millions of votes in any way "massive" and claiming such is ****ing hilarious. Voter fraud is statistically zero.
    ask as often as you want. Reality remains. Voter fraud is virtually non existence, and is in no way in issue in the US, as every single investigation has shown.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Who should we believe you or the SCOTUS, Time Magazine, and your own source, The heritage Foundation? ;-)

    "It remains true, however, that flagrant examples of such fraud in other parts of the country have been documented throughout this Nation’s history ... not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election." Crawford v. Marion County Election Bd., 553 U.S. 181 (2008) (emphasis mine)

    50 documented convictions in every election cycle by your own source is proof that "the risk of voter fraud real".

    Now, why do you keep dodging this question:

    "So, I ask again: "Now, what is the percentage of reported fraud cases that remain unsolved by law enforcement?" Ddy

    Is that a tough one to answer? :)
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice link OP! What law? The fake law you guys keep talking about that supposedly stops all black people from voting? Show me the actual text from it. You guys are pretty funny with your fake news!
     
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    Here is another pretty good source admitting the obvious truth:
    "It remains true, however, that flagrant examples of such fraud in other parts of the country have been documented throughout this Nation’s history ... not only is the risk of voter fraud real but that it could affect the outcome of a close election." Crawford v. Marion County Election Bd., 553 U.S. 181 (2008) (emphasis mine)

    Are you a more credible source that the Time Magazine or the SCOTUS? ;-)
     
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    It is also proof that it is not widespread and cannot impact any but the smallest of races.

    There are more than 300 million votes cast in every election cycle.

    So, 50 convictions comes out to one conviction for every 6 million votes cast. That is even better than I thought it was.

    Or to look at it another way, proven fraudulent votes make up 0.0000167% of the votes cast.

    Can you name me one other system in the world that is more efficient and safe than that?
     

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