Just watched full episode of the Daily Show to get alt perspective (HOLY SPIN)

Yes. Fox defended Carlson using the “any reasonable defense” and prevailed in court. Look it up.

Trump’s attorney (Powell) rolled out the same argument in her own defense recently. Look it up.

Evidently sense isn’t common if so many still believe their BS. Yes, The Daily Show does a good job ridiculing Tucker’s daily dog whistles: there’s a reason white Supremacists flock to his show for his “common sense”.

 

Here it is.

 

Are there any right wing comedy shows? Seems not - what happened did Mitch suck the comedy out of the right or did it just degenerate into “hur hur hur we owns da libs”

 

So that makes it ok to not be truthful!?

I'd be willing to bet a large portion of millennial and gen-Z only get their news from this type of source. No wonder they are so ****ing screwed up.

 

Why anyone would watch any political news is beyond me. It is uniformly spin and opinion, with the only difference being how upfront the shows hosts are about their biases and preconceptions.

 

Political comedy tends to not be funny - at least the peachy sort. Those who do it well - George Carlin, Dave Chapelle, Bill Burr, etc - they're pretty even handed in their jokes.

The problem is that most people don't want the piss taken on their strongly held views. Remember Dave Chapelle's comedy special focusing on trans issues last year?

That's not how to live - in constant fear. If your views can't take a bit of good natured fun then maybe the problem is you and not the comedian. I say this as a big fan of classic Jon Stewart, Jim Jefferies and a bunch of other left wing comics.

If you can't laugh at yourself maybe don't get into comedy...

 

@Darthcervantes

Thanks for the link. I watched the entire video TWICE! I didn't watch it twice because I found it particularly entertaining. TBH watching the clip re-enforces why I stopped watching the show. I don't think the show is as smart and funny as it once was. After watching it the first time I had to re-read Darthcervantes comments about race baiting and lies about racism to try to match it up with what was said in the video. Here are some of my thoughts on the clip:

• I agree the right is trying to ramp up the outrage on culture war related things like cancel culture, censorship, covid rules/regulations/vaccines etc... I have made my view on this issues clear in many other threads.
  
• The bit on affirmative action was not particularly funny in my opinion. He used the standard humor technique of playing on stereotypes that I mentioned in an early post where he talked about how black people drive, woman asking directions and poor African countries riding chicken. I tend to agree with some of Tuckers views on setting quotas on sex and race at the same time I have gone through it in my career and do see the value of diversity. I see the need for diversity in professions and schools although I am not a fan of affirmative action.
  
• I thought the joke about diversity in the NBA about random unqualified people on the court being dunked on was funny.
• I thought the jokes or comments about virtue signalling by the airlines not funny at all.

No one brought up the trans athlete issue but that is an issue where I take the view against trans athletes in woman sports. I didn't find the segment particularly funny but I will admit the piece made me think and challenged my views. His point the most school sports are for the fun and well being of the kids struck home.

So after watching the clip twice I didn't think their was race baiting beyond what you would have if you were to talk or joke about a topic related to affirmative action and I don't see what were the contorted lies. I felt no outrage from watching the clip, even though they did not necessary match my own world views, beyond feeling I wasted about 30 minutes of my time.

 

Dude, the daily show is aired on Comedy Central. Surely the network that airs this show should have been your first clue. LOL

 

Well, the show is aired on Comedy Central. Tucker is on Fox News. Yes, the main content of Noah's show is politics - is that wrong? Should there not be comedy shows that focus on politics?

 

@Darthcervantes

It seems that this thread has run aground, with most posters echoing the same, basic critique of your OP. I had, earlier in the thread, given you suggestions to tweak your thread, by using other comedians who, nonetheless, do takes on the news which you would not meet as much resistance in citing, as political perspectives that are both meant, & are taken, seriously by people on the left: the short "A Closer Look," segment with which Seth Myers often opens his late night talk show; and Bill Mahr's program (though I do not, personally, watch it). I'd pointed out that considering The Daily Show-- a show in which the host has interviewed himself, playing his own, Australian half-brother-- as serious news, just doesn't wash.

If you still wish to investigate this avenue, however, I will give you one more alternative: John Oliver. He is a Daily Show alumnus from back in the Jon Stewart days, who now has a political show on HBO-- but which can also be seen on you tube-- that combines comedy with political opinion that is as serious as many of the non-comedic pundits.

 

The DESPERATION in the OP is PALPABLE!

Political comedians are the modern equivalent of court jesters and their job is to speak the TRUTH to POWER in a way that EXPOSES the FALLACIES that those in power are spewing to We the People.

Using the equivalent of the court jester as a means of DEFENDING the RACIST LIES of a white supremacist rabble rouser like Tucker Carlson is DESPERATION.

Sad!

 

Lol...props to you. I could never get past a few seconds when trying to watch any of faux news’ propaganda shows. All you hear are racist dog whistles and seditious bullshit. Right wing media rots the brain.

 

No, I think your commentary was right on the mark. There is no real "news," programming, on COMEDY CENTRAL Network. While there is non-news entertainment, on FOX, many of their news-themed programs masquerade as real news (& even the news broadcasts, apparently, can be very misleading).

I originally returned to this thread, after having seen some of Trevor's recent shows, to actually agree w/ @Darthcervantes that, in his comedic treatments, Noah does present real political issues, though this is clearly only his own editorializing; and he presents no illusions that he is a "newsman." He's a comedian, but one who makes current news events a part of his repertoir; it is only a less tongue-in-cheek version of what Johnny Carson and Jay Leno, and other late night hosts, have done for many years. But people do not generally mistake these for news programs. The other pieces of Noah's show may, or may not, treat actual news stories; some of those, while comedic, can also be very elucidating, as was one that interviewed parents gathered outside a school, where a school board meeting was taking place. But all the segments (outside of the closing interview) are clearly meant to be COMEDIC. If these FOX hosts were breaking out jokes every couple of sentences, and their shows featured more variety-show type content, the two would be comparable. But they are not. These FOX "spin," shows can be compared to MSNBC's Maddow, which is, clearly, not the equivalent of The Daily Show.

 

I suppose it comes down to intent- whether the intent is to mislead or entertain. I personally think that all of the above mentioned are attempting to mislead, and I don't find those that do so while also attempting to entertain any less unpalatable.

 

Whats scary is significant portion of viewers get their "News" from the late night comedians/talk shows.

Its pure propaganda but as a general rule the left prefers to be lied to and isn't going to review anything beyond the recieved opinions they have.

It took over a year for Jon Stewart to admit the china virus came from Wuhan.

Also, see how many are still spitting out fake facts from the Rittenhouse trial.

 

I would only question your assumption that Noah believes he is "misleading," people. Is it not possible that whatever main points he is trying to make, he actually believes are TRUE? While I will concede that some of the viewpoints held by FOX commentators, they no doubt believe are true, as well, I will agree with your criterion of INTENT: I don't think Noah throws out supposed "facts," that he knows are false, unless he is doing it for the comedic effect, & is assuming that viewers will recognize this.

Numerous FOX hosts, both past & present, I believe have had no
serious qualms with offering evidence that they know is false or misleading, if it serves the purpose of supporting their viewpoint. I don't believe Noah thinks he needs to lie to people to win them over to his viewpoint. I think the most political slant one could attribute to his monologues, would regard his comedic exaggeration not as false statements, but as jokes that make his discussing of politics more palatable to his audience, much of which does not have the interest or patience for straight news.

 

no one can ever replace Jon Stewart

 

What is so funny about "Tucker Carlson says black people cannot be good pilots because they are BLACK"?

Did you chuckle when you read that?

 

Except that's not happening.

 

Yes I did.

 

And what you don’t realize, people that watch it take what he says serious. So when he lies, they believe the lies. And the Left certainly doesn’t think he’s just a comic. It’s supposed to be intelligent commentary.

Thanks for clearing it up that he’s a TERRIBLE comedian, because he’s not funny, but an excellent liar.

 

Except he's not lying.

 

I just don't think he could possibly be ignorant enough to believe a lot of what he says. I also don't believe its necessarily his personal intent to mislead. He's an actor that reads a script from a teleprompter, as they all are. That is their job. My beef is really with the people telling them what to say.

 

I have seen some Trevor Noah and he has never made me laugh.

Jon Stewart on the other hand is awesome. The Daily Show is nothing without him.

 

What is funny about itaaaa/