Pete Buttigieg: Racism is 'physically built into' country's highways

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  1. Starcastle

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    Just when you think these people cannot get any more stupid they top it.

    How do you black folks like this? Make you feel better about your own failures?
     
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    Buttgieg was not either and he is an ignorant ****ing fool.

    The idea is as stupid and baseless as a flat earth claim and yes therefoore reasonable and intelligent people dismiss it as woke lies
     
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    Could be a tad racist is a far cry from being a racist. I'm thinking you believe if you could spin this so road "could" be racist, then we'll all have to assume our roads are racist, then what, is the left going to tear them down?

    And even if the highway planning was a 'tad racist,' so what? What does that have to do with today? Why did Butti even have to bring this up, what point was he trying to make? In my opinion he was just being a dick trying to stir turds.
     
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    Then again when many roads were slated it was more of density regardless or color.. But if you must insist on race, then you need to turn to the Democrats of that period of expansion. They purposely grouped blacks and designed the ghetto's.. In fact those same Democrat PROJECTS still exist today..

    The DNC has been a blight on this country for centuries! The never think ahead, all the while they were whipping the flesh from their slaves then never thought they would have to answer for it.. Then they corralled them in ghetto's and projects at over the last century NOT thinking they would have to deal with them today..

    Then again to the DNC defense, if a person any person can't manage travel "LONG or Short" to find gainful employment or opportunity then IMHO ****' um.. Lets the lazy eat VELVEETA CHEESE SAMITCHS..
     
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    Doing the same thing over and over expecting results is the definition of insanity. Just like trying to do socialism/communism over and over expecting this time they will get it right. Sad to see it happen and so many big businesses who thrive on capitalism go for it too. It makes no common sense either. I take it you live in Detroit...
     
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    It's a numbers game. Twenty low value high density properties are going to cost as much as two or three medium density high value properties (for the same amount of land). It's not 'cheaper' to go through low value areas, if that's what you're thinking.

    Quite apart from the berserk idea that evil civil engineers exist and build evil racist highways, there's the 'buck stops here' reality that no one is forced to live where they live. If your neighbourhood changes in a way you don't like, and you dislike it enough, you'll move. If you don't dislike it that much, you might stay. Either way, you have no cause for complaint. The built environment is constantly changing, with our ever increasing populations. If you're silly enough to live in an urban area of a city which attracts an endless stream of new residents, you need to make peace with these kinds of developments - or LEAVE. But if you do leave, you best be sure you move to a city which doesn't attract hoards of people and thus require constant highway upgrades and the like.
     
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    1) All properties compulsorily acquired are paid for at market value (usually with a little premium on top for the inconvenience), BY LAW. If Govt has ever demolished homes without first buying them or compensating the owner, it has to have been at least a hundred years ago.

    2) What does personal wealth have to do with it? That's like saying they shouldn't run highways through areas which house people who don't like cars. Personal life choices are not part of the equation.

    3) The bootstraps (determination) idea is the LEAST racist concept possible. It's the belief that ANYONE, of ANY COLOUR, and ANY BACKGROUND, can make good. It does not require talent, wealth, luck, privilege, white skin, or good looks. People who insist that POC can't or shouldn't choose determination are always going to have a problem with it - for obvious reasons. In the meantime, POC are ahead of whites on wealth and education stats in America ... so arguing against determination is racist as hell AND embarrassingly out of touch.
     
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    Any chance you could stay in the current century? We get that you're relying on ancient history to keep your dreams alive, but this is getting ridiculous. Are you interested in the now and the future? Or is this just about rewriting history?
     
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    Incredible. Who'd a thunk that cultural and social mores change over time!
     
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    That can only be true if people are forced by law to live in one place. Every citizen is free to move, if they don't like where they are.
     
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    Like separate college accommodation, and that kind of thing?
     
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    What if you don't own the house?
     
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    It's 2021, remember. Your reliance on old tropes is pathetic.
     
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    I've actually taken to calling Progs "Flat Earthers". It really really fits.
     
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    No instead the communities with money lobby the government to go around them.
    Local officials rerouted the elaborate designs of freeway engineers — often at considerable expense — to destroy thousands of homes in racially diverse communities. As detailed by Gilbert Estrada in “If You Build It, They Will Move,” mixed-race Boyle Heights was gutted by freeways. Despite a mandate to avoid parks at all costs, planners put lanes through the middle of Hollenbeck Park while spending millions to reroute around a park in the white suburb of San Dimas. Dozens of Boyle Heights homes were destroyed just to give white suburban shoppers easier freeway access to a Searsdepartment store.
     
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    A city of 12,000? Do you not mean a town of 12,000?
     
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    1) So communities can lobby Govt to protect themselves from such development? But that's great - that means these 'racially diverse' communities can do the same thing. So why don't they? If all it takes is money - as you say - why aren't they raising the money to have themselves heard? Either way, it sounds like it's all about economics - just as I said it was. Nothing to do with skin colour.

    2) Homes are not 'destroyed', they are PURCHASED AT FAIR MARKET PRICE - usually more. We may not feel like moving, or we might love our home, but if someone is prepared to give us full market price + extra to make the change, most of us will find a way to make it work for us. Many will actually see it as a great opportunity.
     
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    Whites move out liberals cry "White Flight"!

    Whites move in liberals cry "Gentrification"!
     
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    The word of the day is “economic imperialism”
     
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    LINK: Brown dwarf - Wikipedia

    Since they're considered failed stars I'm sure someone, somewhere considers them racist.
     
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    Not so, Highways were NOT built right through white neighborhoods. Most of the time highways were stopped if they were going to do that.

    In Baltimore, we have a truncated Interstate that runs some blocks into the city and abruptly changes right back to regular surface streets. It WAS going to cut right through "Historic Fells Point" but it was suddenly decided to "revive" the waterfront that had been in decline for some years. Good thing too as the area has been nationally famous ever since

    I would like to refer Buttigieg to a book by Jane Jacobs called, "The Death and Life of Great American Cities" and to one chapter in particular, "The Curse of Border Vacuums". I hope he's read it already but it seems that his ideas are similar even if he has not.
     
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    Is there a way that we could use "economic imperialism" to keep white liberals from moving to our communities?
     
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    And now they’re the ones who elect black officials to get what their communities needs. What do you want me to say? That oh gosh the Democrats don’t have a history of racism? That because black people don’t vote GOP they should give it a try? Those explanations fail to explain what’s happening on the ground. The simple fact of the matter is if black people are voting for Dems despite this history? It says a lot about the GOP and how badly they failed to deal with race in the past and present.
     
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    Not really because it’s a system that prioritizes the needs of those coming into those communities at the expense of the people already living there. The best thing to do is organize resistances to this. Buy local, fire guns in the middle of the night, etc. subaltern resistances are the way to go.
     
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    Here is a better idea, you stick to to topic of the thread....which is about when the highways were built. How can we talk about how they were built if we cannot talk about WHEN?
     
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