Pete Buttigieg: Racism is 'physically built into' country's highways

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  1. HockeyDad

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    Using your logic, Detroit was 95% White until "economic imperialism" prioritized the needs of the blacks coming into Detroit at the expense of the Whites already living there. Now there are less Whites in Detroit than there were in 1870.

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    Yeah... because the south exists.
     
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    Then why bring it up with the nearly 3 trillion "infastructure" bill?

    Nice Strawman..
     
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    If the highways avoided the minority areas they would also be racist because it would make it less accessible for the minorities to travel. You can't win. Leftist will find racism in anything.
     
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    Not true.

    They were just as often built through white neighborhoods as any other.

    In cities all over the nation.
     
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    I had never actually heard of this

    https://www.npr.org/2021/04/07/984784455/a-brief-history-of-how-racism-shaped-interstate-highways

    I know most here won’t bother reading it because it is easier to act like — well, how they enjoy behaving — but it is sad how America went out of its way to destroy black communities (and now we act shocked because they are destroyed).

    I just don’t see how this infrastructure bill can address that, or even if it can be addressed.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I bolded the part that answers your question.

    trump wasn’t lying when he said he loved the uneducated. They are what got him elected and what never seem to figure out any complex thought.
     
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    I know, it’s one of those things that we don’t really think about but is a perfect example of how the state can discriminate against different people.

    I honestly don’t know how either. I know the grid system to promote walkabolity is supposed to help but I don’t really know if it will have its intended effects.
     
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    Which is all BS of course.
     
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    Thanks for proving cds point. When confronted with facts that disprove your world view, the average right wing response is to ignore it because they can’t explain it.
     
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    No one has provided facts.

    You and all others in agreement with you have strictly provided opinion and nothing more. This includes the lunk to MPR provided by another poster.

    Once again for every black neighborhood which has had a highway run though it there is one or more white neighborhoods which had the same thing happen.

    No one has posgted evidence or facts to the contrary.

    It is in fact typical left wing response to include opinion based on programming with facts
     
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    What is a fact to you? The most commonly accepted “fact” is providing a source for your claim. The NPR article has that, including links to more info. Go to any librarian and they’ll tell you what a good fact looks like.
     
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    That is absolutely not true.

    The NPR article is strictly op ed with no researched facts to back it up and the only links are to obscure op eds which agrees with the premise.

    No it is not an accepted definition of fact to have a source. A fact is measurable verifiable and fails to be disproven such as the earth is basically round or 2=2=4.

    Thde NPR link simply repats what you and this retard biuttgieg and others have been saying which is that the design for highways is racist.

    Not one shred of evidence supports or backs up this claim and not one fact supports it.

    There is no doubt that predominantly african american neighborhoods have been disrupted bith building highways neither is there any doubt that the EXACT same thing has been done to predominantly white neighborhoods.

    The NPR article make no measureable comparison between the two and only rants racism racism racism like all braindead woke sources.
     
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    So your entire argument is you can’t prove it? That’s it?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahah.

    That’s one of the dumbest arguments I have ever heard. I mean really. You don’t like a source so you choose not to call it a fact? You don’t like an expert telling you something that contradict your world view? Ugh I knew most argument was just emotional but still. Why do you even have that idea of “facts” being something like the earth is round? That’s just someone’s opinion based on their research and understanding. That’s their opinion. It’s a scientific fact based on an experts opinion. The exact same thing as saying our infrastructure has a racist past. At this rate it sounds like you’re conflating a hard science fact with a soft science fact.
     
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    Feel free to show your work, or we can just assume this is inflated opinion.
     
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    You clearly do not know ingtelligent arguments from dyumb argument and refuse to hear any intelligent arguments. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and the claim that the highway system is racist is an extraordinary claim

    I never expressed whether I liked the spource or not I stated that a source does not make a claim into a fact and that is true.

    The earth is round is not opinion it is measurable verifiable and irrefutable and does not need experst to be veridied and proven.

    No it is not the same at all and you are now employing a false equivelancy
     
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    You already did show ity the NPR article has no supporting facts it is strictly opinion as any intelligent person knows once they read it
     
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    I question why some of you even attempt to participate when all you bring to the table is shoving your fingers deeper into your ears.

    It’s embarrassing. Feel free to contribute
     
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    You first.

    Provide evidence to the claim
     
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    You’re right. I don’t know ingtellient arguments from dyumb ones. But I do know intelligent arguments from dumb ones. And your argument is a dumb one. Do you know how I know that? Because you say that the Earth being round is irrefutable.

    So basically in the sciences there is this idea of falsification. To be scientific is to be able to falsify something. The Earth being round is a falsifiable fact. But you say it isn’t. So what is it then? Not scientific that’s for sure. I’m not responsible if you don’t know how science works, but I have spent enough time in methods classes to know what you’re saying a fact is a really stupid argument.
     
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    No you do not and my argument is spot on

    The fact is no one has provided evidence for yoiur claim of highways and it requires massive evidence.'

    The NPR article offered no evidence at all but your small opinion is that a source equals truth and facts.
     
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    Your argument is spot on wrong yes. Look up falsification if you don’t believe me.

    Restating your argument because you don’t know what scientific facts look like isn’t conducive to arguing.

    Now let’s break down why what you said is really bad. First off we don’t have to prove anything because we just have to reject the null. do you know what the null is here? It isn’t the highway system wasn’t racist. So that’s why you’re phrasing all of this wrong. The null is there is no relationship between racism and the highway system. We have rejected the null with the NPR article, whose expert opinion rejects the null. Keep saying you don’t think we rejected the null isn’t an argument. It’s just refusing to engage. Why is that the person said wrong? Have you done that yet? No! You just say you don’t like it.
     
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    My argument is spot on right and you know it.

    No scientific facts or any facts at all have been stated to supprot your argument.

    The NPR article is nto EXPERT opinion it is just opinion. Expertds use evidence to back up their claims and the NPR asrticle provides none whatsoever.

    The null cannot be proven the affirmation must be proven and with evidence.
     
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    ... if I say you reject the null don’t tell me you prove the hypothesis. You reject the null so the only thing that remains is the hypothesis. Your argument is just flat out wrong. I don’t think based on your posting record you understand how science works. All you’re doing at this stage is emoting.

    In other words... you don’t like that the expert has rejected the null with their research. It’s a summary of their research which is bite size for a lay audience.They have done what you demonstrably misunderstand as science.
     
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    I am stating the null.

    There is no evidence that the highway system has racism built in and so far no one on this thread has offerred ebvience to the contrary

    There is no expert at NPR weighing in on this.

    I am stating facts it is you emoting by screeching that your feelings outweigh evidence and facts
     

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