Nearly 40% of Marines have declined Covid-19 vaccine

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    disagree in the olden days biological warfare was done by the enemy.

    today it appears the deep state is behind the china virus.
     
  2. liberalminority

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    they will not be rated 100% because of a vaccine

    covid is an excuse for handouts.
     
  3. Nightmare515

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    Yes it has been briefed time and time again to us that once it receives FDA approval we will all be ordered to take it like we're ordered to take the other myriad of shots. And I can honestly say that I know of NOBODY who is actually in the military who is "complaining" about that prospect. And I know a lot of people in the military...We take dozens of random ass shots all the time nobody gives a damn. The difference is that those other random ass shots are FDA approved which is why nobody cares.

    And as far as the comments about the Anthrax shot in the military? Hell yeah people complained about that when it first came about. So much so that a federal judge halted the military anthrax vaccination requirement because people caused such a fuss about it in the military claiming that it was rushed through FDA approval and created a lawsuit out of it. The difference is that anthrax wasn't a pandemic that shut down the whole planet and caused much of the general population to be genuinely afraid of leaving their house. Most people likely didn't even know there was a controversy with the anthrax vaccine and the military at that time and how A LOT of servicemembers flat out refused to take it and got court martialed for it. Thankfully for society we have move passed the era of telling human beings in the military that you WILL take this controversial drug OR ELSE. We're at the point now to where we aren't going to rush experimental drugs through the FDA and force them on servicemembers.

    Oh the horror of such a policy....The theme of this thread is astonishing to me to be honest. Many servicemembers had genuine concerns about taking an anthrax vaccine and they lost their rank and sometimes their careers over it back then. And based on the sentiments of many in this thread that was a GOOD THING. We change our inhumane policy in the DoD to no longer force individual human beings in the military to take something that they may not be comfortable with until it gets FDA approved and civilians are mad at us for that...

    That's sad.
     
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    that appears to be an untruth, the younger military are honorable and were taking personal responsibility.

    they did not enlist for handouts, but for the service of freedom for Americans.
     
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    My 20 years of service in the military says otherwise.
     
  6. flyboy56

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    If the military has been able to dance around Agent Orange claims I'm sure they aren't to worried about the vaccines.
     
  7. Lil Mike

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    You do get that the dancing for that did end with billions worth of claims?
     
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    Exactly! Many given full disability for Agent Orange claims! And battles still exist on the Anthrax Vaccine Program. Another program where the government blindly trusts science without nearly enough evidence of success because it is our military and they are expendable, so says the government.
     
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    They don't need it. The risk for those in good physical shape is extremely low.
     
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    I stand corrected on Agent Orange. I don't believe our government sees our military members as expendable.
     
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    most republicans I know are now getting the vaccine, once they found out Trump took it, they realized it was for the best
     
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    To die from CV-19 as a young healthy Marine would be such an amazing outlier that it shouldn't be considered a result of not having the vaccine. There should be no consideration of forcing young healthy people to get the vaccine.
     
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    Nobody is afraid of a pin stick, but the informed members of the military (there are a few) understand that THIS pin stick is injecting an experimental drug into them, injecting a substance and theory that has never before been used on humans.

    The REALLY informed members, likely there are a few, are smart enough to realize that the virus they are being 'protected' against is about like the flu virus. They know that 99% of those infected survive just fine. There are a few sophisticated service members scattered around, and they understand the 'scam' angle of the injection.
     
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    Obviously.

    Morons have been Trumped.
     
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    Forced? No. It should be a job condition as are all teh other vaccines teh government insists on for our soldiers.

    Why should this one be exempt is teh better question?
     
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    I suspect these "REALLY informed members" are not as stupid as you made them out to be in this post.

    Trumpism, the great justification of ignorance in American. Deplorable.
     
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    Why do so many turn their back on their societal responsibilities?

    The evidence, although not yet complete, leans heavily to the conclusion that those vaccinated do not spread the disease.

    The fear of the gun nut crowd is palpable. It must be terrible to live in such fear.
     
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    THAT'S RIGHT! For Gods sake let all the older people die and the economy collapse! Boy would there be a good shot at anarchy then. IT'S JUST WHAT WE NEED.

    Stupid idiots. If enough people get vaccinated then all people can be safe. If these young marines want to kill off older people they should no longer be marines.
     
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    Seems odd. Served in the middle to late 90s and had to get the anthrax series of shots. It was not option.
     
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    Anthrax and covid are vastly different diseases. The former is usually fatal, the latter is usually like a cold or flu.

    The vaccine for the former is a genuine vaccine, the injection for the latter is not a vaccine and is and experimental medical device issued under Mach Speed and Emergency Use Authorization only. The recipients are basically lab rats.
     
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    I don't know what this means.
     
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    I'm not surprised. I have a science background in my college education, and with my father being a doctor, I was educated about vaccines at a young age.
     
  23. Lil Mike

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    Update...

    Pentagon grappling with new vaccine orders; timing uncertain

    The Pentagon now has two separate missions involving President Joe Biden's announcement Thursday aimed at increasing Covid-19 vaccines in the federal workforce. The Defense Department must develop plans to make the vaccine mandatory for the military, and set up new requirements for federal workers who will have to either attest to a Covid-19 vaccination or face frequent testing and travel restrictions.

    Austin said the department will move expeditiously, but added that he can’t predict how long it will take. He said he plans to consult with medical professionals as well as military service leaders.

    Any plan to make the vaccine mandatory will require a waiver signed by Biden, because the Food and Drug Administration has not yet given the vaccine final, formal approval. According to federal law, the requirement to offer individuals a choice of accepting or rejecting use of an emergency use vaccine may only by waived by the president, “only if the president determines in writing that complying with such requirement is not in the interests of national security.”

    Mandating the vaccine prior to FDA approval will likely trigger opposition from vaccine opponents, and drag the military into political debates over what has become a highly divisive issue in America.



    So it's illegal to force the military to take a none FDA approved vaccine. I didn't know that. So it requires Biden to sign a waiver. Well at least that will require him taking some responsibility.
     
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    Them risking themselves for our freedom isn’t enough for you people? Now you want to force shots into them?
    Communism here we come
     
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    pfeitzer sales rep?
     

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