Failed 2020 Climate Predictions

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ha ha..., so no response to post one article content....., was that too scary for you?

    The comment Vailhundt, posted is his desperate attempt to get people fall for his misleading misdirection away from the Topic expose of 10 failed 2020 Climate predictions. to his cherished worn out link defending the Hanson modeling failure with a pack of misleading statements warmists employ when they face a situation when they confront a strong skeptical expose of AGW science being filled up with predictive failures. He ignored the other 9 completely and chose a link trying to defend Hansen's 3 modeling scenarios. Thus he defend 1 and ignored the remaining 9, that is batting .100 for effort!

    They employ their childish fire brigade response of their holy Consensus mantra, oh yes the glorious CONSENSUS!!!!! AHMEN!

    Meanwhile rational people are unafraid to read for themselves the actual claims as they are originally posted.

    Here is what Hansen own paper he published, read carefully, it will shows that it is a paper filled with unsupported assumptions, oh yes a LOT of assumptions, remember it is a paper built on emission scenarios!

    Dr. Hansen's 1988 paper
     
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    John Kerry Repeats His “Last Hope” Claim Over Paris Agreement Talks
    Eric Worrall
    John Kerry has repeated his claim the upcoming COP26 talks have to produce results. Remarkably Kerry also criticised China’s efforts. It will be interesting to see how public criticism of…

    ". . . With his repeated last chance claims, John Kerry has added his name to the hilarious and very long list of last chances to save the world from climate change. The list stretches all the way back to the 1980s, so clearly some of the last chance claims were a little exaggerated. . . . "
     
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    Interesting. Is this you now suggesting that the church doctrine of AGW isn't worth following anymore? Really?
     
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    Events like what happened in TX last week were never again supposed to happen. The fact that in recorded history, many parts of TX experienced the coldest weather ever, well, that's just global warming don't ya know.... It's laughable at some point. It's the reason the church of global warming changed their brand to climate change. They never again have to prove the climate will warm. And all that money from their contributors still comes rolling in.
     
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    Bingo. They can now make reference to ANY weather event and fear monger about it and claim that "human activity" is causing it.
     
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    Hansen Wishes He Wasn’t So Right About Global Warming
    Posted on March 13, 2021 by tonyheller
    I’ve spent thirteen years documenting how NASA’s James Hansen got everything wrong – and how he corrupted temperature data to cover it up. But he says he was correct about everything.

    [​IMG]James Hansen wishes he wasn’t so right about global warming

    I’m not going to detail his impressive list of failures here, but I am going to discuss the key failure which doomed all of his other predictions to failure as well. Central to his global warming theory is that a hot spot would appear in the lower troposphere near the equator. In 1985, he predicted 7C warming in the tropical troposphere hot spot. . . .
     
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    And where's that Ice Age I was promised? I wanna go skiing in Miami.
     
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    We are already in an ice age, it has been for around 1.6 Million years.
     
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    The most inconvenient truth of all: every prediction in Gore's movie for a date that is now past has been falsified.
     
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    48 Of 79 ‘Catastrophic Climate Change’ Predictions Have Failed…The Other 31 Just Haven’t Expired Yet
    By Kenneth Richard on 8. April 2021

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    A new peer-reviewed paper published in the International Journal of Global Warming identifies 79 “apocalyptic” predictions formulated since 1970 by “researchers and activists” who “predict cataclysmic events” resulting from “catastrophic climate change.” Already 48 of these “truly apocalyptic forecasts” have failed. The other 31 are likely just as wrong, but the prediction end dates haven’t expired yet, as “the apocalypse is always about 20 years out.”
    Rode and Fischbeck are “professors of Social & Decision Sciences and Engineering & Public Policy” at Carnegie Mellon University.

    In a new paper and press release (surprisingly published in AAAS) they have effectively exposed a “string of repeated apocalyptic forecast failures” over the last 50 years made by such activists/scientists as Al Gore, Paul Ehrlich, and Tim Flannery. Activists/scientists James Hansen and Michael Mann have catastrophic predictions set to expire in the 2030s, and the IPCC had a cataclysmic forecast already fail and 3 others that will expire in 2029 and 2050 (2).

    The authors’ intention was to warn the climate science community about the cry-wolf dangers of repeatedly making “extreme climate forecasts” that, when they inevitably fail, “undermine the trust in the underlying science.”. . . .
     
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    Because you're incapable of doing so. Because they're made up.

    And it's been shown to be there.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo208
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    Over the period of observations, we find a maximum warming trend of 0.65±0.47 K per decade near the 200 hPa pressure level, below the tropical tropopause. Warming patterns are consistent with model predictions except for small discrepancies close to the tropopause.
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    Pretty impressive, that Hansen predicted it would be there, before it was measured, and it was there.

    What, you weren't told about that? Getting info from only one poltically-approved source will have that effect.
     
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    Sorry, but "models confirming models" falls short of persuasive. Meanwhile:

    1. About that missing hot spot in the upper troposphere
      so-called tropical hot spot. Climate models show amplified warming high in the tropical troposphere due to ... does it matter if there is no hot spot? ... The (missing) tropical hot spot is one of the long-standing controversies
      GCM have/produce a tropical tropospheric hot spot. The fact that there is no hot spot indicates that the
    2. 'Climate models not only significantly over-predict observed warming in the tropical troposphere, but they represent it in a fundamentally different way than is observed'
      au/tag/missing-hot-spot/) and among experts (eg http://www.climatedialogue.org/the-missing-tropical-hot-spot). There ... Tropical Troposphere Revisited ... The issue of models-vs-observations in the troposphere over the
     
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    Wrong:

    https://judithcurry.com/2018/07/03/the-hansen-forecasts-30-years-later/
    Wrong again. It's merely been modeled as being there:
    See?
    Wrong again. It wasn't there, and it wasn't measured. It was merely modeled using a wind proxy model.
    Many peer-reviewed papers have proved Hansen to be a liar and a buffoon with zero (0) understanding of climate.
     
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    Yet you can't show any. No deniers can. It's because they're just making up some fine, fine fraud. Same old same old.

    Back in reality, Hansen kicked butt with his predictions, even in 1988.

    https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/climate-model-projections-compared-to-observations/

    Remember, you can't gaslight intelligent and informed people. You can only gaslight ignorant cultists. Honest and intelligent people know with 100% certainty that you're making it all up.
     
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    Wrong again:

    http://www.itia.ntua.gr/en/docinfo/1212/

    Why do you keep making that claim when you know that it has been proved false many times? To be as charitable as possible, that constitutes gaslighting.
    Except that in addition to growing numbers of peer-reviewed papers, the ultimate judge -- ACTUAL PHYSICAL EVENTS -- keeps on proving Hansen and the AGW scaremongers wrong and the skeptics right.
    Courtesy of a GISS temperature record that has been massively falsified to agree with Hansen's theory, and then a bogus retroactive "adjustment" to Hansen's proved-wrong theory to make it agree with the facts.

    Remember, you can't gaslight intelligent and informed people. You can only gaslight ignorant cultists. Honest and intelligent people know with 100% certainty that you're making it all up.
     
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    RealClimate from 2017? That's your best? Flicked away with the little finger of my left hand.

    New confirmation that climate models overstate atmospheric warming
    Posted on August 25, 2020 by curryja | 148 comments
    by Ross McKitrick Two new peer-reviewed papers from independent teams confirm that climate models overstate atmospheric warming and the problem has gotten worse over time, not better. . . .
     
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    And none of you even tried to refute it. 'Nuff said.

    McKitrick? Why not cite McIntyre while you're at it. If you're going to quote paid shill cranks and frauds, don't leave any out.
     
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