J and J Vaccine Stopped.

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  1. George Bailey

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    We will be fine. With a Survivability rate of well over 99%, the CV-19 Virus is not a big threat, especially with all the previously infected and those that have survived the vaccines boosting our herd immunity even further.
     
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    Nothing. The spooked flock will continue to bleat for vaccines even if there were reported cases of them turning a few unfortunates into brain eating zombies. I truly pray there's not a huge "uh, oh..." surprise down the road.
     
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    This is unfortunate. This will just embolden the anti-vaxxers and will reduce our chance to attain herd immunity through vaccinations. It's already happening in Europe. Nobody wants the AZ vaccine, because of their pause in using it. The same will go for J&J here, people will just not get vaccinated at all, or wait for the Pfizer/Moderna vaccine. I can see why they are doing it, better safe than sorry. However, potentially saving a few lives through the pause may lead to many more lives lost through vaccine hesitancy. Not good....
     
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    I'm sure it will be back soon, but it's good to do a quick review under the circumstances.... in the meantime, still plenty for all who want it...

    SNIP
    Zients said there was enough of a supply of the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines to make up for the pause of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine and still hit the administration's vaccination targets.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...-agencies-call-pause-johnson-johnson-n1263953
     
  6. George Bailey

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    It is interesting after their baby powder was found to cause cancer. If they can't get that right....
     
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    These vaccines were rushed, my bet is those the quickest to get them are our Guinea pigs, and what's a few blood clot to ensure my safety ;) Hell, how bad could it be, look at our president, he is living proof a good amount of brain damage is a desirable trait among a huge group of voters!!!!
     
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    It is scary to think about. Who knows what will happen in 5 years. Like anabolic steroids. Good at first, very bad later. When you start messing with cells who knows.
     
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    Yup.. Biggest con job ever perpetrate on the American people for a virus that the majority would have breezed thru it.. Now they get to sit around and wonder what damage these new vaccines will do to them long term..
     
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    Lucky for us we now have an administration with the foresight to have a contingency plan.
    Also nice to see they didn't try to hide it.
     
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    Yep!

    I grew up with a close friends taking roids. I refrained and just kept with the high protein diet. My gains were much slower than theirs. While I was in pretty amazing shape through that period, they were just beefed up animals. When we hit about 30's I kept my steady routine and caught many of them, some of them got fat. A few really did stay with the chemical health practice. Now my good friend, I'll call him "Kegger", because that was his nickname for carrying the kegs by himself all the time, but never drinking them (he smoked weed), is fighting all sorts of heart and organ issues. He's a great guy, but having that bodybuilder physic via roids catches up to people.

    Who knows how these RNA "vaccines" (Not J&J which is traditional) will effect people in 10 years? Perhaps this is how the Walking Dead starts.
     
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    That was ridiculous :) So what's the contingency plan for those folks with brain clots, huh ;)

    BTW, it was the UK that first reported it LMFAO..
     
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    I use some of that GNC stuff, and the whey powders and nugenix crap, helps some at this age.. But I'm beginning to think carrying all this muscle at this age isn't all that great especially chest and neck! I'm starting to experience some sleep apnea on really tiring days like seven mile walks or weight days.. Starting to rethink it some at this point.. But I did as you did all through my life no roids either
     
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    Actually if you do the numbers if we didn't have other vaccines we should just keep going because it would save a lot more lives.
    Covid 1700 deaths per million< J&J, one death per six million.

    Different vaccine in the UK.
     
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    Well if there is side effects like clotting, some are risking the "Cure is worse then the Diseases" syndrome :) I know plenty of people taking thinners so they don't have a stroke from that same disorder..

    And you want to risk having them throughout your body just laying wait for the time they finally dislodge and travel up to your brain, well enjoy that bro, but not I!!

    And considering all the vax's have the same basic makeup, I'd be pretty cautious as to the if, that they don't all carry a certain chance of having that same side effect..

    GLAD I toughed thru it the old fashion way....
     
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    Oh I am guessing demand will shift overseas to third world countries for their vaccine :eek: Anyway, I understand the number of incidents have been rather small but at least they are doing it out of an abundance of caution.

    I have both my moderna shots, so it is all in God's hands now.
     
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    No way to really judge, clots can happen anywhere and lay wait to break free and travel thru the vascular system.. Gonna be pretty hard to find the smaller ones that will easily cause stroke in the small vessel of the brain..
     
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    I am not an anti vaxxer and still refuse to participate in this clinical trial. Many vaccines have results going back decades. Long term effects of this one is unknown and it may turn out to be a big, legally protected, mistake.
     
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    No you don't.
    CVST is a rare form of stroke. It affects about 5 people in 1 million each year.

    Not this one.
    Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) occurs when a blood clot forms in the brain’s venous sinuses

    two different kind of vaccines.

    I hope you didn't suffer much. My arm was killing me. :)
     
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    These people are hilarious. So, you'll lock down and wear a mask for a year and get a vaccine shot for a virus that has a 98% survival rate, but you won't get that shot if there is a 0.0000000001% chance that it will cause a blood clot...
     
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    Six women between age 18 and 46 suffered brain blood clots one died and one is still in extreme danger out of the 7 million who have received the vaccine.
     
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    That is weird. How could they have possibly connected those dots? How could they identify 6 people out of millions? You know what I mean? Thousands who took the vaccine have probably died. How did they zero in on those 6? Are blood clots extremely rare? More rare than heart attacks for instance? Probably.
    It just makes me think maybe there is more of a danger. Maybe more grimm considering it is a one in a million event. Or some folks want to destroy j and j.
     
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    It's a very rare type of clot that only occurs in about 5 per million naturally.

    Cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST) occurs when a blood clot forms in the brain’s venous sinuses
     
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    Got both vaccines. No tails growing. Feel fine.

    Not sure why folks are afraid of getting shots. LOL
     

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