Minnesota police shoot, kill man after traffic stop incident

Not sure if its been posted but they released the reason he had a warrant out for his arrest, the warrant being why he was being arrested when shot. Looks like he was having problems staying out of trouble.

 

So now....after the media has promoted this rioting and looting, we hear more of the rest of the story....

So this is the loving man the media portrays with a baby on his lap. Prepare him for sainthood! It makes me sick!

 

Now that some facts are coming out, it sounds like this outstanding young man was a pillar to the democrat community.

Maybe we should get all the facts before "burning it down"?!

 

which is fine

What I never hear spoken to are the hoodlums in backwoods areas. We have just as big a problem with the white trash.

 

No need for you to reiterate all that, since I made no argument against any of it. I only mentioned that it was the misdemeanor charge of not having a gun license because, initially, you'd claimed it was a felony warrant and, even in your, "correction," you didn't mention that it was for a misdemeanor charge, only that it was a, "weapons charge," which, to the average ear, sounds like something serious, so was a potentially misleading way of putting it.

It's a weapons charge AND a fail to appear. There is nothing misleading about either of those, those are common terms.


As I would imagine you realize, it is not the, "technique," that Chauvin used which is really at issue, it is how he used it, specifically the length of time he employed it. Every police officer testifying, that I've heard, has said that Chauvin's using it for 9 minutes, on a person in cuffs, & in the prone position-- which the police all seemed to understand, restricts a person's breathing-- beyond the point when Floyd was resisting, in fact three minutes beyond the point when he had lost CONSCIOUSNESS, is NOT PROPER POLICE BEHAVIOR! So I guess you have a difference of opinion with all of them, as well?

Would you take a minute to show me where in training it describes how long to maintain the restraint? I posted a vid showing how the restrained did not die, and was in no way under a threat of death.

Can you see why your viewpoint comes across as being unjustly pro-officer? The way those officers used those techniques, could have killed ANYONE. And, as no medical expert has testified that Floyd's levels of narcotics indicated he would have been expected to die, what you, "feel," about Floyd having killed himself, is nothing more than a story you tell yourself to justify Chauvin's abuse of his police authority. These are the kinds of people who should not be allowed into, or at least who should be expelled from, law enforcement, once their nature becomes disclosed. This is part of the problem which you ignore. The fraternal bonds between officers clearly help protect those who, "bend," the rules. It is to your credit that you admit this police-woman's inability to competently handle her duties, but she'd been on the force for 26 years. Is this really the first time she's panicked?
While being a police officer is a great service to the community, it also comes with great responsibility, upon those who choose this career-path.

Uh, no. That technique works just fine, and the only people I see here getting fussy about it have zero training in it's use and have never actually done it, which I have. That's for the clot floyd. Ar as the woman? I have no idea what she's like to work with, or what she's done in the past. I know that anyone considered an AA hire can sue to get AND keep the job, which is a huge problem. People with no ability to do the job get to because we feel sorry of unqualified clowns and let them do it anyway. At our own peril, obviously.


10 times more likely than a white person, is what you left out of your statistic. But in that data, 0% of escalations (or thereabouts) are attributed TO POLICE! Therefore, what the data only truly shows, is that a black, in an interaction with police, is ten times more likely than a white (or non-black?) person, to have the situation, "escalate." This stat is in no way inconsistent with the idea that police are often the ones escalating situations, specifically against black people. (I reiterate, not all police).

Until someone has data showing the police acting out of order when they deal with black people I can certainly go with the numbers that show how often, 10 x, they act a fool and cause their own problems.


The reason the problem will never completely disappear is that police officers come from American society. So if there is racism in the society-- & there is, to greater or lesser degrees, in all societies-- then people harboring racist feelings will always be part of the pool of candidates, for the police force.

Blaming racism is a cheap way out of a discussion. If- than is no way to attempt to locate a solution to this, since the same potential racists are on the receiving end up police encounters in the first place.

Unless you can cite some source, to back up your statement that the whole of those who, "should not have that job (of police officer)," were hires forced upon the police, through affirmative action, then your statements are but an indication of your own PREJUDICES.
I am sure there has never been a law passed, or a regulation instituted, that has compelled any police force to put UNQUALIFIED candidates into UNIFORM.

Lastly, if you hadn't noticed, the vast majority of officers whose behavior is at the center of, "these things," who end up killing people in mundane interactions, in which many in society find their conduct questionable, are white & male.
(This is not my saying that white men don't make good officers; since they are the vast majority of cops, it only makes sense that they would have the most complaints, and supply most of law enforcement's bad apples. I am only noting how ridiculous your notion, that it's only the, "diversity hires"-- women & minorities-- who are behind all, or even an inordinantly large share, of the questionable incidents of police using lethal force).

Let's start by remembering no agency is going to call an AA hire "unqualified" they will simply nurse those candidates through the academy and hope for the best.

If there is a greater % of white males on a police force what exactly do you think the % WOULD show? I have no problem telling you or anyone that I've known a ton of white male officers who should never have worn the uniform. Lethal force instances are judged on an individual basis as those situations vary greatly.

 

Oh, it's definitely the right thread. Don't think for a moment that Daute Wright's tribe would be unaware that George Floyd's tribe has been handed $27,000,000, in order to soothe the Black 'community', create the right 'optics', and hopefully keep Blacks from rioting, looting, burning, pillaging, and stealing everything they can lay their hands on -- again and again and again!

And, in all honesty, if some stupid, dumb-ass cop with TWENTY-SIX YEARS EXPERIENCE, of any gender, who can't instinctively feel the difference between a taser and a revolver, were to kill some relative of mine, I'd go hire the best lawyer I could find and get me and MY tribe $27,000,000, too! Oh, but wait -- MY tribe would probably only get 'chump change', because MY tribe, unfortunately, is White....

 

According to one of the defence witnesses, Floyd was still a threat while being held down prone because this witness examined Floyd's arm in the video and saw varicose veins which according to him indicates that Floyd had a strong pulse and he could see that Floyd was very strong. The defence witness is an idiot! And was easily destroyed by the prosecution
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EDIT Not really the right thread

 

Ya know, it would have been a far better thing, all the way around, if that police officer had been carrying one (ONE) weapon and one ONLY! Then when this perp, who had two arrest warrants out on him (one of which was WEAPONS-related), resisted arrest and attempted to flee, she could have used perfectly legal, authorized means to force him to HALT, as he had been commanded to do in the FIRST place.... Maybe most perps would think twice before trying to resist and evade arrest if they realized that they would, IN FACT, get shot with something besides a modified 'toy'.... Hell, on second thought, why didn't she just pull out the cannister of maximum-strength PEPPER SPRAY that cops always have with them and HOSE HIM IN THE FACE WITH IT...?!

I'm not a police officer, and I'm not a weapons expert, either, but I've always thought that 'tasers' are an inadequate, bullshit substitute as a weapon to augment real LAW ENFORCEMENT, protecting both the police officer and the public bystanders who are in the area where criminals are breaking the law.

 

Charges expected against Minnesota ex-police officer who fatally shot Black man
By Reuters Staff

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(Reuters) - A police officer who fatally shot a Black man during a scuffle in a Minneapolis suburb that followed a routine traffic stop could face criminal charges on Wednesday, according to the county attorney in charge of the case.

Washington County Attorney Pete Orput told Minnesota’s WCCO Radio and other media outlets that he could file charges against the former officer, Kim Potter, on Wednesday for shooting 20-year-old Daunte Wright.

Orput, who could not be reached for comment, has not indicated the likely charge or charges, according to media.

... ctd: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...icer-who-fatally-shot-black-man-idUSKBN2C11UY

 

Your close familiarity with a former police officer would surely suggest to you that when officers are responding to a "situation" they don't have time or 'bandwidth' for a lot of 'touchy-feeley' bullshit -- and this is especially true when the "situation" in involves an arrest warrant for a perp which was oriented in a WEAPONS-related crime (as one of the two arrest warrants were for this Daunte Wright creep).

The police are, in fact, "following orders" when they are taking a perp into custody with two arrest warrants... surely you SEE that. So, it's "Yes, sir... no, sir" when you're being arrested by a police officer, and none of this resistance/evasion crap....

 

As I see it, in the 1960's two very pivotal things happened to American Blacks -- one very good, and, one very bad.

The good part was a combination of the formal end to 'segregation' in our society -- in everything from riding a bus, to sitting in a restaurant, going to a movie theater, etc. The other parts were tremendously important -- the Civil Right Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. The old "Jim Crow" laws were abolished and a bright, brand-new day of real EQUALITY began.

The bad part was that a new 'slavery' began... one in which American Blacks, enticed by liberal Democrats to 'get on welfare' became a near-ubiquitous way of life.

American Blacks were enticed and lured into orienting everything in their lives around the GOVERNMENT. As a consequence, only a very small number of Blacks went into business and opened their own companies, instead flocking to GOVERNMENT jobs, military and 'civil service' types, and this behavior exists right up to this day. The ones who couldn't even get jobs working for the GOVERNMENT have relied, generation after generation, on various smorgasbords of GOVERNMENT welfare handouts, and the overall effect of this on the large majority of Black Americans today is all too clear to see....

 

And you can prove this with what....?
Let us all see on what you have based this opinion.

 

The guy is a complete idiot. He's no medical expert to claim if or if not Floyd heart was doing well or that Floyd wasn't suffocating.
The guy is an ex-cop, paid to rant his nonsense for the sake to help out an other ex-cop.

 

Hopefully, if she ever has kids I hope she learns about lethal force in case they don’t obey her legal orders. Otherwise she will probably be featured on a 2 hour segment of Dateline.

 

Many Policemen in America need to learn what side of the counter they are working on. Just like a snotty clerk with a badge in a department store, they are out of line and should be **** canned. Most Policemen know already that they work for us, not the other way around. Some think that their badge and gun give them the right to do whatever they want. In this case, she should have called for backup and apprehended this kid instead of shooting him dead.

 

Prove what? That Floyd's tribe is getting the $27-mil?! That's been all over the news... look it up for yourself.

Look at History -- going all the way back to the late 1960's. The 'Black community' has been keeping 'Whitey on the run', blackmailing the entire non-Black segment of society ever since. Either non-Blacks keep Blacks placated and somewhat contented with welfare and other enticements to behave, or Blacks run amok, destroying or stealing everything they can.

Hint: When you run a city, large or small, you have to think in terms of what it is going to take to KEEP people from rioting and rampaging. Obviously, the mental 'titans' who run Minne-EHH-polis decided to make a big public splash out of giving criminal counterfeiter Floyd's tribe TWENTY-SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS, so that the Black mobs could feel like "justice" had been done and thus, they could 'feel good about themselves'. See how that works...? It STINKS, yes -- and if you want to blame someone for this miserable situation, go back and blame President Lyndon B. Johnson!

 

2nd Degree Manslaughter seems fair.

Manhattan-based civil rights lawyer Ron Kuby said Kimberly Potter, 48, could face a second-degree manslaughter rap for fatally shooting the 20-year-old black man after drawing her handgun instead of her Taser in Brooklyn Center, Minn.
“Mistaking your Taser, which is lighter, colored differently and on another hip, with your handgun, which is black, heavy and on your other hip — and causing somebody’s death is second-degree manslaughter, or at least can be prosecuted as such,” Kuby told The Post.

https://nypost.com/2021/04/13/kim-potter-may-face-charges-in-daunte-wright-death-experts/

 

So! apparently Dante Wright wasn't the innocent little Angel the Left like to portray him as, but instead was involved in an aggravated Robbery and didn't want to go to Jail, so he decided to flee. Moral of the story, obey the LAW! and don't point a Gun at a lady and rob her. Had his Gun discharged and he killed her, there would be no RIOTS for her.
https://nypost.com/2021/04/13/daunte-wright-was-facing-attempted-robbery-case-when-killed-by-cop/

Daunte Wright had an open warrant related to an armed robbery case against him when he was shot dead Sunday by a cop who claimed she thought she was firing her Taser, court records show.

Wright, 20, and another man had been charged with first-degree attempted aggravated robbery in December 2019 for allegedly trying to steal $820 from a woman at gunpoint, according to Hennepin County District Court documents.

The pair had crashed at the victim’s home in the city of Osseo after attending a party there –then demanded money the next morning while flashing a gun, authorities said in court papers.

“Give me the f–king money — I’m not playing around,” Wright told the woman, according to prosecutors.

The victim refused and began screaming for both men to leave, records show.

 

Former Brooklyn Center police officer Kimberly A. Potter will be charged with second-degree manslaughter in the shooting death of Daunte Wright, according to Washington County Attorney Pete Orput. The charge carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison and a $20,000 fine.

https://m.startribune.com/

 

No it seems rational, I don't believe she was saying she ENJOYED the accidental shooting of a suspect......how about a little rationality in your post? And yes it shows she made a mistake and that is quite clear on the footage. She tells the suspect that he will be TASED if he doesn't stop resisting and trying to escape, she pulls what she believed was the TASER and yells out TASER TASER TASER. There is nothing resumed[sic] there YOU are the assuming not me.

 

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I believe it has to do with (1) and framing it as she took a "chance"..................HUH and she was fully justified to use the force she BELIEVED she was using, justified under the law as a police officer. She was trying to TASE him the gunshot was accidental.

609.205 MANSLAUGHTER IN THE SECOND DEGREE.
A person who causes the death of another by any of the following means is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both:

(1) by the person's culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another; or

(2) by shooting another with a firearm or other dangerous weapon as a result of negligently believing the other to be a deer or other animal; or

(3) by setting a spring gun, pit fall, deadfall, snare, or other like dangerous weapon or device; or

(4) by negligently or intentionally permitting any animal, known by the person to have vicious propensities or to have caused great or substantial bodily harm in the past, to run uncontrolled off the owner's premises, or negligently failing to keep it properly confined; or

(5) by committing or attempting to commit a violation of section 609.378 (neglect or endangerment of a child), and murder in the first, second, or third degree is not committed thereby.

If proven by a preponderance of the evidence, it shall be an affirmative defense to criminal liability under clause (4) that the victim provoked the animal to cause the victim's death.

 

She was just arrested and charged with manslaughter....hope she enjoys this part of her career

 

So what?

There are thousands of people everyday who are arrested on outstanding warrants (discovered through running their name at a traffic stop).

In 99.99% of cases they are able to remain alive during the course of the arrest.

Of course, most of them don't run into some trigger happy cop (who is a disgrace to the badge) who can't tell the difference between a Taser and a Handgun.

 

Hmmm, hadn't never heard that one before.