Kori Gauthier, missing LSU student, identified as body found in Mississippi River

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  1. Grey Matter

    Grey Matter Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is really horrible. It appears this young woman killed herself by jumping off the I-10 bridge in Baton Rouge. I've driven across this bridge many times and it is a long drop to the river as best as I've been able to tell. Spring finals coming up at LSU? 19? Is that even old enough to be able to decide on suicide?

    Curious, is suicide always a cowardly and selfish decision as one of my friends once asserted, or is it sometimes justified at least in the case of having an incredibly painful terminal illness?

    And why did this girl with this brilliant smile choose to leap to her death?

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    https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/article_307bd01a-9bf9-11eb-99ee-4f1a647515f7.html
     
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    There could be any number of things that give someone a reason to do this. I would never call it cowardice until I knew why they did it. Very sad for her.
     
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    I disagree 1000% that suicide is cowardly. It is usually a very hard decision for those who choose that route. I have known 8 people who committed suicide. Two of them were by gunshot and probably wouldn't have done it if they did not have immediate access to a gun. I know several others that attempted suicide but survived.

    It is extremely difficult for someone to reach that point and the pain and sorrow they carry is often overlooked until it's too late. It's very easy to pass judgment on others but our time would be better spent helping others that cross our paths. It costs us nothing to be kind. It may just save someone's life.
     
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    So very sad that she felt this was her best option. I am familiar with that bridge and I can't believe that no one saw her stop and head over to the side to jump. There isn't ever a time that this bridge would be empty of passing vehicles.
     
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    Do you work at a depression clinic? Because if not you need to find different people to surround yourself with. That’s not healthy.
     
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    For once I would have to agree with you. If 8 people I knew all committed suicide I would seriously start to wonder if I was the problem.
     
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    I do not work at a depression clinic. I'm assuming you meant some kind of suicide helpline. I do not.

    Your next comment illustrates the problem people face when seeking support. It is very easy to walk away or not pay attention when we see others hurting. What's the point of living in communities if we aren't going to care about one another?
     
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    Not to derail the topic of this thread too much, but it is highly unusual to have known 8 people who committed suicide. And then on top of that you claim you know others who've attempted it but survived.

    Do you maybe live in one of those parts of the country with a high suicide rate?

    (see the diagram map in this link: Is altitude causing suicide in the West? )
     
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    Within 10 miles of the Clintons’ home?
     
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    I agree with your post with exception, as bolded.

    Access to a gun is a matter of physical means, not of the state of mind that drives the need to end their pain or torment.

    I too know a number of people who have ended their lives, not 8 of them though. The use of a gun, weather true or not, is viewed as a 'absolute' where gassing is iffy, poison painful and iffy, and driving into a wall can harm others, and most geared towards suicide, aren't looking to hurt others in their journey.

    How sad that this young lady believed she had no other path.
     
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    Posts #5 and #6 - do these members feel better about themselves now? I mean, I totally understand that here at PF the rule that if you can't say something nice then just don't say anything is not applicable, but I am missing any tiny piece of marginal value in these two posts.
     
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    You are correct that access to a gun didn't *cause* them to commit suicide. It was just the fastest and most accessible option at that moment in time.
     
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    This sucks. I feel especially bad for her family and friends. We are failing the younger generations on Mental Health in a huge way. If you all think we have an epidemic now, give it a few years.
     
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    The Clintons live in New York.

    What are you talking about?

    Anyway, back on-topic, a very sad story.
     
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    Referring to areas of population with high suicide rates.
     
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    A bit of reasonable empathy looks well on you, you might consider wearing it more often.
     
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    While they may be harsh, those posters are entitled to their opinions. The "value" in their comments illustrates exactly why people can reach the decision to commit suicide - insensitive, judgmental and mean people all contribute to the overall angst and despair that people feel. Suicide almost always is not caused by just one incident. It's typically a long line of distressing circumstances and the feeling of having no way out.

    It has always boggled my mind how people will fight against abortion but don't seem to give d*mn after that person is born.
     
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    Oh?

    Is there a high suicide rate (relatively) within 10 miles of Chappaqua, NY?

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    ^Not according to the ABOVE Map.
    Which was cited in the linked article.

    Granted the article is dated Jan. 2015.

    Do you have some recent info (since Jan. 2015) on the epidemic of suicides within 10 miles of Chappaqua, NY?

    Do tell.

    So, once again, what are you referring to?
     
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    Yes, I always feel better when I post what is on my mind. I was not trying to be mean, just stating a fact.

    I am 56 and I have never known anyone that committed suicide, not a single person in all that time. And I have a very wide circle due to moving as often as I have.

    And I was very serious when I said if I knew 8 people that had done that I might start to wonder if I was the common denominator.
     
  21. Grey Matter

    Grey Matter Well-Known Member Donor

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    So then you are basically admitting to being a narcissist? It would be about you rather than them?
     
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    If that makes you happy, sure why not.

    I had a friend in the Marines that at the age of 26 was on his 4th marriage. It never once occurred to him he might be the problem. I try not to be the self unaware.
     
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    In my life, I have known of a couple of people who made unsuccessful suicide attempts.

    They were both confused young people who took too many pills, but they survived.
     
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    Is it okay if I send you a PM?
     
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    No problem, dude. If it's all about you then it's all about you. At least you own it.
     

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