Do You Prefer Capitalism or Socialism?

I will "feel better" when your country begins to appreciate Democracy (and its principles) and starts to work towards Democracy as its primary goal.

 

And why is it you’re obsessed with a country you aren’t a citizen of?

 

Let's continue.......

ONCE AGAIN, the question the OP should have asked; Do you prefer more or less socialism, and why?

Well, first, we need a general concensus on what socialism is/is not.

Will the following question explain what socialism is/is not?

Question; Do you want the U.S. to become more like Venezuela?

Number of Replies; 500

499 Nays
1 yea

Thread dies, game over!

 

Tell me why you are obsessed with what I think and then I'll tell you why I care about the US. Deal?

 

Why are you obsessed with Russia - are you a Russian Citizen ?

 

That's not greed.

 

So business has no free will.

 

The PUERILE content of the OP fallaciously ASSUMES that there are ONLY two choices which means that the OP IS alleging that the "world is black and white".

Sad!

/thread FAILED because OP NEGATED his own fallacious premise.

 

No its not.

 

Let’s continue.....,

Quote; “First, we need a general consensus on what socialism is/is not”

CRITICAL THINKING

Question; What is capitalism?

General concensus; Private ownership of MEANS to produce and deliver GOODS and SERVICES.

Antonyms of “Private”; Public, State-owned

Bingo!

Question; What is socialism?

Public ownership of means to produce and deliver GOODS and SERVICES.

 

I've often wondered if your vocabulary had "no" as every other word.

Socialism can't exist without a mechanism to prey on others, to force compliance against people's will. It's similar in structure to the many cults and communes that popped up in the decades following the hippies.
The one big happy family idea. Bernie Sanders belonged to one of those communes that farmed their own food- but got thrown out because he wouldn't help with the work, he thought just his opinion justified his being supported by others. Even in a commune, somebody has to be in charge; there must be some kind of government. Unless it refuses to tolerate those who won't work, nobody will work- and when none want to work, they won't support making themselves work.... So socialism can never exist as a viable social/political system; it has far too much appeal to those who can't or won't do for themselves.

It could exist as a voluntary form such as a commune, but the invariable difference in the contributions of people without proportional rewards eventually results in the departure of the productive members.
Self-destruct mechanism is built into the concept. When you force it on people, you destroy everyone....

And despite the "NO! NO!" I'm sure is echoing in your mind right now, You DO "know" it's so.

 

Trump said..."America will never be a Socialist Country"

Millions of Americans have never lived under a socialist regime, that's why far left socialist politicians promise our citizens a better future through economic and social equality, i.e. like from AOC, Bernie Sanders and now Biden's 'Build Back Better' nonsense.

Under our current capitalistic society, we are all free to build our businesses (if they aren't being burned down in blue cities), market our products/services, and spend as much money as we want. We own our businesses and the profits belong to us.

Socialism steals opportunities. You no longer maintain control over your business or your ability to achieve success. The government under socialism either owns your business outright or controls it through over-regulation for the so-called benefit of society as a whole and not for your individual success.

Socialism manipulates your mind by painting a picture of Americans gleefully standing hand in hand. That won't happen because socialism violates our human desire for ambition and achievement.

Socialism turns you from a Giver to a Getter. The habit of giving (which is primarily an act performed by Capitalist-driven Christian Conservatives) cannot be developed under socialistic rule. Under socialism you have no control over your own money or how much you actually keep so there's no opportunity for you to give to others.

Capitalism creates true Wealth and Success. Capitalism adds value to People's lives.
Capitalism gives you the ability to Invent and Innovate; you won't find that from any socialist.
Capitalism gives you the opportunity to earn Huge Income.

"Socialism Steals Opportunities and Capitalism Creates Opportunities"

So my answer to the OP question...Do You Prefer Capitalism or Socialism is obviously.....'CAPITALISM'

 

CRITICAL THINKING:
IF government owns the farm and the truck but there is no consequence for failing to raise or deliver the crops, people go hungry. That's socialism.
No incentive to perform well invariably means poor performance and even less concerns about it.

Government is historically the least efficient and most expensive way to do - anything. That is a consistent truth that a critical mind can't deny.

 

Democracy is immoral.

 

Dictatorship would be the inevitable culmination of a purely capitalistic society. The most successful business, or individual, would
eventually acquire all the assets of that society - that is why we have monopoly laws that LIMIT the pure capitalists.

 

So you understand that we do take steps to prevent the unlikely but possible ill effect of total control by one entity from happening.
If a person understand the purpose of that, why would they think giving all ownership of all business to one entity with total power, like government?

Would any person be so blind to the ever-present state of corruption that al governments invite? I don't think so. No intelligent, cognizant person could do that.

It's like Winston Churchill once said:

Democracy is probably the worst system of government, except for all the others...."

 

I rarely see anyone arguing for ALL business to be owned by the government. It's more an argument of percentages. They
do have an argument when you look at countries with more socialized services, like health care and education, you would
think that the governments would be generating more debt - but countries like Sweden, Switzerland, Canada, New Zealand, actually
have MUCH lower Debt to GDP ratios than the US and Japan, with their supposedly more capitalist systems.

 

They also have more consistent character present in both their people and their governments. Regardless of the system, the end result depends heavily on the skills and integrity of the people- both the public and the leadership. More than anything else America needs- we need a better standard of character and higher values- both of which are being actively attacked by the left today.
No matter how good the car- performance also depends on the people involved, like the driver and mechanic.

 

Quote; IF government owns the farm and the truck

IF.....Theoretical

Let's discuss reality; In the U.S., governments do not own the farms.

However, like North Korea, China, Cuba, and Venezuela, do we want our governments to own most of the farms?

Replies; 500

Nays; 500
Yays; 0

 

Asking you why you’re obsessed makes me obsessed? Haha...um ok.

 

I’m not. What evidence do you have that makes you think I am?

 

Not a Russian Citizen - or not obsessed with Russia ?

 

Quote: I rarely see anyone arguing for ALL business to be owned by the government. It's more an argument of percentages.

Exactly!

Also, when it comes to having LESS or MORE Capitalism/Socialism, every first world countries have their PROS and CONS, for example;

Since early 70's, the Norwegians have been investing their SS contributions into stocks, bonds, real estate world wide. RESULTS; Per capita, the largest SS Fund in the world; As of 2021, $1.1 trillion USD/5.5 million pop = $200,000 per capita.

However, Equinor, Norway's largest Energy Company has been state-owned for well over 5 decades.