Police: 8 dead in shooting at FedEx facility in Indianapolis

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  1. George Bailey

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    Those stats make the left tremble. Good luck with Communism 2.0. No wonder they want to take the guns.
     
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    If deer could shoot assault rifles how many of those 'brave' Murican hunters do you think would venture into the bush?
     
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    Even better. Require militias to register with the state. We can expect more out of an organization than we can an individual.

    They can carry liability and professional insurance and hold weapons like an armory when training is not occurring.

    Is that better?
     
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    Yes. Those hunters are going to stop the evils of education and public health care. Those things should terrify all Americans!

    Scary stuff the left is wanting!!!!

    Next they will want workplace safety and environmental regulations to protect our air and water!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    You sound like a very reasonable person...you deserve a reasonable response...

    Up to a point, you are correct. There appears to be still a ‘help your neighbour’ attitude that is alive and well in our communities....not so much in the big cities, but it is nice to be met with smiles and nods and “good mornings” from complete strangers as you walk the streets of my home town (my wife and I live in a large coastal town on the Nth Coast of NSW). I accept that such behaviour might be part of a bygone era in your part of the world. I have to say though, that I’ve travelled to the US many times over the last 30 years or so as part of my involvement with sports. I found the majority of folks there to be absolutely charming and welcoming....most of my travels were away from the big urban centres though.

    This whole business of “it’s my right” provokes some thought for me. I’ve been a high school teacher for 40+ years and a common complaint from adolescents who don’t like having to follow rules is “You can’t make me do XYZ...I have rights!” A conversation often follows in which an attempt is made to impress upon that young person that as well as having ‘rights’, a person also has responsibilities to others. After the shouting dies down, there is often a recognition that the rules are there for good reasons.

    Is it too mean to suggest that many of the “it’s my right to own as many guns as I like” crowd are focusing on that selfishness you mentioned...?
     
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    Trump. And you blamed him for it.
    In 2018, deaths from mass shootings fell 38.7% You did not give Trump credit for the drop.
    In 2019, deaths from mass shootings fell an additional 4.5%. You did not give Trump credit for the drop.
    In 2020, deaths from mass shootings fell an astonishing 92.3%. You did not give Trump credit.for the drop.
    So far, in 2021, deaths from mass shootings are up 233% from 2020. You do not blame Biden for the increase.

    Thus proving you only care about mass shootings so far as you can use the victims for political gain.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:.....what good is a carrier battle group, boomer sub, flight of F-16s,or armored battalion against insurgent "cells" that pick and choose their targets and when they strike? "A guerrilla must move amongst the people as a fish swims in the sea". Mao Zedong (yeah, even a commie devil can get it right)!
     
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    That's easy.

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    20,000,000 AR15s in the US
    Over the last 40 years, 16 of them have been used to kill 266 people in mass shootings.
    That's 0.4 rifles per year, to kill 6.65 people per year.
    Clearly, the number of guns, and access to them, is not a problem.
     
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    :lol:
    You have no idea hot inane this question is.
    :lol:
     
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    Do you have links for those numbers?
     
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    Go to the post in my sig. The post has the link.
     
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    You sound like a reasonable person also (I later came to know you are a high school teacher which means you have nerves of steel and patience of a saint ;-).

    I didn't mean to give the impression that we are all hate-filled monsters roaming the streets waiting to hurt one another. Not at all. Most people will speak to strangers and help with directions when asked. I was commenting on the overall sense of being neighborly has diminished. For example, both my parents worked so we were alone after school for a few hours. We could go knock on any neighbors door if we wanted a snack or were afraid of a storm. A man in our neighborhood repaired all our bikes and a sweet lady baked cakes and pies for us kids. Another neighbor owned the corner candy store and we didn't dare try to buy candy at her shop if it was before dinnertime. LOL She hosted a huge 4th of July (Independence Day here in the states) fireworks show for the whole community every year.

    Comparitively, my spouse and I lived in a community for about 13 years and I can only tell you the names of four families at most and there is only one of them that I would tell my children to go to if necessary and I was even hesitant to do that because they had custody of their grandson and he was beyond awful. I live in an apartment now since my divorce and I know a handful of my neighbors. I wouldn't seek any of them out in a time of need but I've opened my door and cupboard for them in their times of need. Basically, I don't mean to romanticize the past. It's just things aren't the way they used to be and I think that's true to some degree for all generations.

    We've come a long way in many areas such as science, medicine and technology but it's come at a cost of interpersonal relationships and strong sense of "community". COVID has also made a huge dent in our children's and grandchildren's socialization. It breaks my heart to hear of all the young people struggling with depression and thoughts of suicide because they can't be with their friends. I also know a few seniors really struggling with the isolation as well.

    Yes, I would say there is a fair amount of truth in the similarities between your students' thinking and some of the people that vehemently defend their right to bear arms. We often hear people say "One life is too many" but it doesn't seem to apply when talking about gun control. Only time will tell if those costs will ever outweigh the perceived benefits.
     
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    Both excellent reasons to be prepared to defend yourself.
     
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    Sure.

    Because like all republican POTUS before him, he did nothing and and didn't want to did something.

    The proliferation of guns is a national disgrace and one of the biggest social problems in this country.

    Every advanced country in the world that has suffered a traumatic mass murder (UK, Canada, France, New Zealand, Australia, Norway, Austria, Belgium etc...) has taken strong action and has seen results.

    With the exception of a 2A fanatic, no other citizen of an advanced country on this planet would find it normal that a civilian could accumulate dozens of assault rifles and then machine-gun 60 innocent people.

    Same thing when a teenager massacres 20 school children.

    And don't make me cry with the stupid argument that guns protect the country from tyranny.

    It was strong 2A supporters who stormed the Capitol to kill elected officials and overturn the election.
     
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    No. You demonstrated a lack of basic understanding of the second amendment. There is no remedy. Read.
     
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    That is at the top left's agenda? I wish. Maybe in the 50s.
     
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    The historical revisionists have already turned that nonsense into "trespassing". They don't seem able to account for the number of 2As that are still seeking revenge against Pence.

    The bottom line is they are never going to negotiate some kind of reduction in personal arms no matter how many people commit homicide or suicide. Our approach to crime and justice could really use some big changes.
     
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    You're factually wrong.

    In the opposite, actually. We have no gates and 2 cops in my town of 1500 people, and the only way we can afford to pay them is to share them with a neighboring town. They go 'on call' but out of service part of the night. About 1/3 of the town is low income housing/trailer park, and the average home value here is around $150K with about half of them being rentals. The only crime we have is people cooking meth and stealing stuff occassionally if you leave it out and easily accessible at night (and this only in about the last year or so). I can't say everyone who lives here has guns, but everyone I know who lives here has guns, and the gun store is probably the single most revenue generating business in our whole town. In the 10 years I've lived here, we've had one knifing that occurred between families members inside their home, one suicide by hanging at a known meth house and one shooting that ended up being a mentally ill illegal immigrant who didn't even live here. Do ALL of your neighbors and ALL of their neighbors have guns? I regularly see someone or another openly carrying a firearm ...and no one ever complains or seems to even care at all. Even the one hard core Democrat who lives here, with the sunbleached, half fallen over 'Hillary' sign in his yard, I happen to know has what most folks would consider an 'arsenal'.

    But you don't have to take my word for it. Pew Research: Among adults who live in rural areas, 46% say they own a gun, compared with 28% of adults who live in the suburbs and even fewer – 19% – in urban areas, according to a new Pew Research Center survey

    So rural people and homes are more than twice as likely to be armed than urban people and homes. If you don't think criminals are going to prefer to commit crime where they are more than 100% less likely to get shot for it, then you've got a much bigger problem than guns.
     
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  20. George Bailey

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    Yes it could. If we brought back the gallows and carried out swift and harsh punishments crime would plummet. It works in Asia.
     
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    No irrelevance to the 2A.
     
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    I'm not threatening anything. I don't own a gun. What I am stating is a fact. What took place at the Capital is proof as to how far gun owners would go if the government tried to limit their access to guns. You think I'm wrong?
     
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    Years ago I would have argued against that approach. However, I've matured since then and recognize that some people just don't deserve to walk amongst us. There would have to be some safeguards in place to ensure a person isn't sent to the gallows unfairly or without due process but I could get behind the idea of (relatively) swift and harsh punishments if it would stop those can't be rehabilitated and deter others from committing the same types of crimes.
     
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    Probably as many as stormed the beaches of Normandy, the jungles of Nam, and the mountains and caves and compounds and IEDs of Afghan....where the hell do you people think Uncle Sam recruits America's troops from?
     
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    Largest group of armed citizens on earth, no wonder the haters from around the globe constantly post on the web to denigrate and attempt to shame us into surrendering our rights and suplicating and genuflecting and bowing to kiss the ring, as they have.
     

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