Body camera videos show 13-year-old Adam Toledo put hands up before fatal police shooting in Chicago

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    The police report was literally released with the body camera and surveillance video... I don't know what else to say to you if you haven't read it or seen the videos, but it was one individual who fired at an unknown target (allegedly a vehicle), and the individual who fired the weapon has been identified as the 21 year old. I also don't know where you heard that both individuals were firing at cars, but again the information we have so far suggests it was one individual firing at what appears to be a car. Nothing that has been released suggests it was multiple people shooting at multiple cars

    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...do-shooting-released-alongside-video/2488475/
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Probably not a good mother and a father who was never present. The criminal had a gang tattoo and was out engaged in gang gun activity, he is responsible for what occurred.
     
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  3. truth and justice

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    You have a link for the two minutes? And one gun was found and the 21 year old was the one who had gun residue on his gloves
     
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    He was not hiding the gun behind his back as he turned. Are you just making things up as you go along?
     
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    Yes, and according to the very same prosecutors who reported the gun residue, it was the 21 year old who fired the weapon, and not the 13 year old. Also, the moment that the weapon was fired was actually caught on camera, and it is perfectly clear that it was the 21 year old who fired the weapon. It is also worth noting that the report makes no mentioning of a second weapon being found at the scene

    We haven't gotten the full details yet, but you can piece together how the 13 year old ended up with the weapon, and why no weapon was found on the 21 year after he was seen on camera firing the weapon
     
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    This is definitely not a firing position, I should also note that at this point the weapon was on the opposite side of the fence, and not in reach


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    As I understand it, you were/are a part of the law enforcement community. Your job, your primary job is to bring the suspect into custody whenever this is possible. This is because it's the only way to bring about fair and equitable justice to both the victim and the accused. So when cops are trigger happy, not only is a potential innocent dead but the suspect is dead as well, not allowing us to resolve the case.
     
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    I've done both.

    No where did it indicate the second party was ow wasn't shooting.

    All it said is that at the time of arrest the 21 year old dint have a gun.

    Anything about who was shooting at cars... you made that up.
     
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    Kid should not have been outside, kid should not have been shooting guns, kid should not have run with a gun. Had he not done any of these things, he would not have been shot.
    His parents should be arrested for neglect which ended in death.
     
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  10. jcarlilesiu

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    I was wrong. It wasn't 2 minutes.

    It was one minute and 44 seconds.

    "In the footage recorded from the shooting officer's body-worn camera, the officer appears behind the wheel of a squad car responding to a call of shots fired. About 1 minute and 44 seconds in, the officer pulls over, jumps out of the vehicle and starts running after someone."

    https://www.npr.org/2021/04/15/9877...al-police-shooting-of-13-year-old-adam-toledo

    So can we now admit that you're just making things up?
     
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    And no riots

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    On a frame-by-frame viewing, a pistol-shaped object appears to be visible in Toledo’s right hand behind his back as he pauses near an opening in a fence and turns his head toward the officer.

    Surveillance footage captured the same moment from across a nearby parking lot. It shows the teen stopping with his right arm behind the fence, making an underhanded throwing motion, just before he turns back toward the officer and slumps to the ground.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...yebasld36oulootdq6i-story.html?outputType=amp
     
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    You are the one who made up that the boy was hiding the gun behind his back. Everything I've written about was in the police report. The 21 year old had gun residue on his gloves which matched the only gun found
     
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    Lol @ shifting.

    Already posted the facts about the kid having a gun behind his back, probably when you were responding.

    Now, considering all these facts, are you prepared to admit it was a justified shooting?
     
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    Obviously.

    Only agenda driven drivel would dispute this.
     
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  16. truth and justice

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    What are you going on about. No one has denied that he had a gun! He was not hiding it behind his back. As for your question have a look at my first post in this thread.
     
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    Which occurred fractions of a second. You found a still frame that supports your opinion, but is void of any reality of the circumstance.

    It's like posting a picture of a car going Dien the road moments before a horrific accident and saying "see, they should have swerved, clearly they had time".
     
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    From the news article:

    On a frame-by-frame viewing, a pistol-shaped object appears to be visible in Toledo’s right hand behind his back as he pauses near an opening in a fence and turns his head toward the officer.

    Surveillance footage captured the same moment from across a nearby parking lot. It shows the teen stopping with his right arm behind the fence, making an underhanded throwing motion, just before he turns back toward the officer and slumps to the ground
     
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    Did he have his hands up when he got shot?
     
  20. truth and justice

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    So not hiding it behind his back, he was tossing it behind the fence which was where it was found
     
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    Actually, he was the 'expert' witness from the defense.
     
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    In the bright light of 2:30 in the AFTERNOON it's probably easy to SEE that. These morons, however, were roaming the streets at 2:30 AT NIGHT!

    What's YOUR vision like in the middle of the night?
     
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    If you toss a gun from behind your back... where was the gun?
     
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    So he was home and in bed that night before sneaking out at 2:30AM? So whose playing the false narrative card? And there is no denying the kid had a gun as I stated in my post.
     
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    He was home before he was gone again.
     

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