Russian Tanks Cross Border Into Ukraine

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  1. Bill Carson

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    Haha, you make me laugh.

    Ukraine couldn't wipe it's own butt without outsider help. They couldn't even orchestrate their own coup of a duly elected president.

     
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    Thanks for the interesting info.

    Anyone willing to speculate what happens on April 21 ?

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    NATO will cease activities would be my guess -

    We saw what happened last time NATO crossed the clearly demarked red line - Russia protected its 400 year old strategically located port - by annexing Croatia - albeit with a high amount of support as is largely Russian Ukrainians .. Russia using the Kosovo Model.

    Not sure if NATO is wanting to poke the Bear again in Ukraine .. full marks for the rhyme - even if my guess is wrong :)
     
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    А ты откуда, Билл Карсон?
     
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    Can't wait for the total non-response this gets from the Sovokian Federation.

    UK warships to sail for Black Sea in May as Ukraine-Russia tensions rise- Sunday Times

    British warships will sail for the Black Sea in May amid rising tensions between Ukraine and Russia, the Sunday Times newspaper reported, citing senior naval sources.

    The deployment is aimed at showing solidarity with Ukraine and Britain's NATO allies, the newspaper reported.

    One Type 45 destroyer armed with anti-aircraft missiles and an anti-submarine Type 23 frigate will leave the Royal Navy's carrier task group in the Mediterranean and head through the Bosphorus into the Black Sea, according to the report.

    ... https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...russia-tensions-rise-sunday-times-2021-04-18/
     
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    May ?

    UK coming late to the party ?

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    And if they ever need help in that regard I'll recommend you . You can be their 'go to' guy for that service. It's certainly within your still level.
     
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    Sure, and current events too.
    I would call someone 'racist' for condemning Israel in the UN.
    Why? Because lots of other nations don't get called out at all.
    For instance, if someone condemns Israel for their 'treatment'
    of Palestinian Muslims but won't call out China for having about
    two million Muslims in '"re-education" centers then I would say
    that person isn't really concerned about Muslims at all.

    Otherwise, yeah, can't stand people using the term 'racist'
    to shut down debate.
     
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    People went to jail for other reason. Russia collusion was an invention.
     
  11. Monash

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    You miss my point. America could aid Ukraine to resist a Russian invasion because it has relatively modern political, education and military structures. The countries you named don't. So the US could provide Ukraine with advanced and complex weapon systems and they in term could (A) maintain them properly & (B) deploy them effectively.

    Afghanistan couldn't operate anything more complex than relatively simple company/platoon level weapon systems without direct assistance on the ground. That's why, God forbid, if Russia ever did invade America wouldn't need to deploy large numbers of troops to oppose it (some but not whole divisions). Ukraine has the troops, America has provide the high tech equipment. And equally important it can provide air support from outside of Ukraine itself if it has to.
     
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    The Russians do not have and never have had a single aircraft carrier. They don't need it. They have hypersonic missiles.
    The loss of which fleet in 1905 are you talking about? About the Russo-Japanese War of 1905? But it’s ridiculous to talk about it. Look who owns the Kuril Islands, Sakhalin, the Sea of Okhotsk.
    Talking about losses the Russians in the Tsushima battle is like talking about Pearl Harbor, for example.
    I understand that you have no other arguments? :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Ahahaha .... You will study the question. For example, find out when the term "Ukrainian" appeared and what this term means.:roflol::roflol::roflol:
    And what can you teach Russians? How to write signs "only for whites" and "Negro not allowed entry"? Or do you want to tell about how to do the lynching correctly?
     
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    They also have the Armata Tank and SU-57 stealth fighter the same way Japan has Godzilla, i.e. on video.

    In other words they have hyper-sonic missiles like they have all the other wonderful shiny toys Putin likes to show the public - a couple of dozen (at best), semi-working models, for show.
     
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    Russian rockets "dagger"



    Are Russian Hypersonic Weapons Leading to A New "Sputnik" Moment? https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...onic-weapons-leading-new-sputnik-moment-61562

    But you continue to bury your head in the sand.
     
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    It is absurd nonsense to call someone racist for call Israel - or any other nation - on atrocities against civilians. This would be akin to labeling any nation would called out another Nation's atrocities "Racist" - and this is patent absurdity.

    What does calling this person racist have to do with other groups of people not doing what they should be doing - what does this have to do with this person ..

    You are using the word racist improperly - and definitely that kind of demonization of the other is a "shut down debate" tactic
     
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    Tanks are not really a worry they are slow primitive lumps of metal !
     
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    Yeah....they have "hypersonic" missiles like all other wonder weapons little Kremlin razgul hobbit has....its like German wunderwaffen,but at least the Kraut stuff actually worked.

    Never had an ACC??....Your Kuznetsow sits crooked somewhere with its crane still on the deck and half its electronics stolen. But you're right....razguls never had an ACC!:roflol:
     
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    This can only be understood by someone with a brain... But don't strain yourself.
     
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    I am pleased that you follow every Russian ship. But "Kuznetsov" is a cruiser. Not an aircraft carrier.
     
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    Lol....ok, cupcake, Its a "cruiser"....I don't follow razgul junk.....I know the ACC Kuznetsov is a POS tub, best thing the vatniks could do is tow it out far enough and sink it. Naval engineering was never a moskali strong point.:roflol:
     
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    No I won't....its a joke, but at least you get an "E" for effort.:roflol:
     
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    Not true - and good thing too - as we rely on Russian rocket technology to get men and satellites into space - unless Musk's product is finally ready to go - but it matters not - point being that Russia has good missile/rocket technology..

    It is actually the Russia/India/China consortia. When the wall fell Russia had no economic ability to match the US plane for plane - ship for ship .. so they focused on niche technologies .. such as anti-ship missiles.

    The "Sunburn" was the worlds first super sonic anti ship missile - introduced round the mid 90s At the time the US was at least a decade behind. Shortly after India joined with Russia on their program .. their version called the Brahmos .. China came to the party a little later.

    So there has been some serious resources - by 3 significant nations - working on these technologies - and in doing so have neutralized our navel threat.
     
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    Zoomer - You could have the apple fall on your head and you would be still unconvinced of gravity - if that apple was red and thus reminded you of "Russia Russia Russia"
     
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