Three people are dead amid an active shooter incident in Austin, Texas

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  1. Josh77

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    Personally, I think it ridiculous that the definition of "mass shooter" is anything other than someone shooting a bunch of people. Any other definition is just semantics, and seems like a tool to tailor data in a politically convenient way.
     
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    Clearly you're unaware of the data regarding police officers committing crimes at a much lower rate than the general public.

    But of course that doesn't fit your anti cop narrative so by all means ignore facts and push your agenda.
     
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    Illinois,New York and the vast majority of BLUE STATES are not in the top ten states for either GUN DEATHS or violent crimes. The rural underpopulated states dominate these lists when the deaths and crimes are per capita.
     
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    Exactly, falc

    The Top 10 states for gun deaths per capita are all filthy red states...
     
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    WTF? That's outrageous! How is the public supposed to steer clear of him if they won't issue an alert with his description and pics etc? WT ever loving F?
     
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    I can understand that but from what I have read is mass shooting is defined in such a way that allows it to be understood in criminology as a random act of violence and not a domestic act of violence or violence from crime. The reasons behind each are different.

    It is kind of like counting the number of house fires separate from arson. Both a bad and we need to be vigilant about ending them but the metrics are different and will require different solutions.

    I don’t think it is defined that way with malice intend but rather the data is used to further one thing over another.
     
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    That's because the original post (and poster) had no facts. The comment was the intellectual equivalent of breaking wind. Offensive if noticed and best not repeated.
     
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    I can see the reasoning for that. what that tells me is that the reason for mass shootings by that definition is almost exclusively mental illness, or at least partially mental illness. I’m sure there are a few exceptions, but that seems to me to be the big one.
     
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    More political gibberish from the left who cannot seem to focus on facts, truth, or reality! Or even a single topic for that matter!
     
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    Anything to paint a false story.
     
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    These types of shootings do seem clustered at a time, not sure if it's copycat or just coincidental.
     
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    Lol...what’s up with this Anglo Saxon meme you people have started trotting out? Is it some qanon code?
    As an Anglo Saxon, I am offended by racists trying to co-opt my heritage for their deplorable agenda.
     
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    I think it definitely has a major roll. Most of these incidents are people that stand out as concerning, many are even “known to the FBI” which shows they are throwing out warning signs. The question is how to we intervene with these people in a way that will not impact a lawful gun owner.

    I don’t believe we should just expect this like so many second amendment proponents believe is a viable answer.
     
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    Honestly, I think the only answer is to show love and compassion to these people. In todays world we walk right by the crazy people. We ignore them, pretend they don't exist. They only have their own thoughts, or the positive reinforcement loop that the internet gives them to their crazy beliefs. I don't think we can legislate a solution to the problem. We have to SEE and acknowledge them, and even if they creep us out, we need to reach out to them, talk to them, as human beings showing compassion, and actually MEAN it. Not just check the block and move on. I don't think our society is at all built around these values. It is all about working your ass off to acquire more stuff, and beating out the competition to do it. This mentality is just devoid of humanity. I have no idea how to go about changing an entire societies values, but I guess it has to start somewhere, at a personal level. People just become lost when no one really cares about the pain they are going through.
     
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    Look at homicide rates in modern America. Biggest spikes are under republicans (1969-1977) biggest dip is in the Clinton years.
    Just facts. So stop with useless pseudo facts.
    For all the right screaming about safety and crime and foreigners. We have been living one of the most crime free periods in our history.
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    Cities (which are overwhelmingly blue) dominate the violent crime statistics.

    Crime rate by population size:
    >250,000 = 715.8
    100k - 250k = 451.9
    50k - 100k = 333.2
    25k - 50k = 270.5
    10k - 25k = 254.8
    <10,000 = 310.9

    Source = https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-16
     
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    Exactly. It's very rare that using statewide data, for any topic, can be used to draw a conclusion regarding red/blue.

    If crime largely happens in certain areas, you don't, unless you're trying to be dishonest, lump that area in with all the rural areas where there's practically zero crime.
     
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    OK, I've just come across this story stating that they've arrested the murderer near Manor, Texas: https://www.click2houston.com/news/...on-continues-in-northwest-austin-report-says/

    "Police said Stephen Broderick, 41, was arrested without incident about 7:30 a.m. along a rural road in Manor, an Austin suburb, Manor Police Chief Ryan Phipps said. He had a pistol in his waistband, Phipps said."

    My apologies if I'm duplicating someone else's earlier report of the same thing, but I didn't see an earlier post that indicated he'd been apprehended.
     
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    How many individuals have to be shot as to be considered a mass shooting, 3 or 4?


     
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    Another one just happened in Austin and someone has died:
     

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