Police: 8 dead in shooting at FedEx facility in Indianapolis

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  1. ChoppedLiver

    ChoppedLiver Well-Known Member

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    And nothing means nothing.

    All you have done is make ignorant ASSumptions of what you WANT me to say.

    If asked that you PROVE your asinine ASSumptions, you'd have NOTHING.

    Ergo, you have nothing but straw man arguments FULL of nothing.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The founders also believed in slavery and in only allowing land owners (no mortgage or debt) to vote. I am not sure those are the individuals you should be basing your belief structure on. Several of them also spoke out against religion and Christianity. Most of them were influenced by Deism.

    “The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” — John Adams

    “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.” — James Madison

    “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.” — James Madison

    “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.” — John Adams

    “Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.” — Thomas Paine

    “Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.” — Benjamin Franklin

    As for your god, you can have whatever opinion you so choose — I will continue to believe it is a sign of mental deficiency or need for some personal meaning however — but do you know how easily you ignore and discount Yuhuang Dadi, Allah, the many Greek and Roman gods? It is that easy for me to do so for yours.
     
  3. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No children are being slaughtered

    Hormones within the body of the woman are simply being cut off in most abortions.
     
  4. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's the "deep as required" that worries me about people like you. You really have no idea the can of worms you want to open. Sounds like fascist thinking.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If working to prevent school and workplace shootings is fascist then so be it.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What assumptions have I made, according to you?
     
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    Rather than have the state prove to a court the need to strip someone of their rights, they want doctors - who typically lean left - to have the power to strip someone of their rights for at least as long as it takes that someone to appeal the doctor's findings to a court.
    That's their -entire- goal here.
     
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    Well... Link to what you want to discuss and i will gladly discuss it.. Its RBT since you insist...
     
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    I'm pretty certain most doctors would not want to strip patients of their rights as it is also in a doctor's interest to keep their patient's medical information private or they just may not have any patients. Doing no harm is also an oath doctors take.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, so be it. Let's ostracize good citizens just because they have a mental illness. And how about people who have been subjected to constant bullying? Should they to be scrutinized? Once the Nazi's were set upon the Jews it ended up with millions dead. Be very afraid of the power of group think. Hate, prejudice and ignorance sees no boundaries. It all seems so righteous to you until you or someone close to you gets caught in the wide net you hope to cast.
     
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    Gone are the days of going postal.

    Now you threaten someone by saying you'll go full FedEx on them.
     
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    Or until your child gets murdered at school by a lunatic with a gun. I do love the sky is falling and fearmongering. “We will end up like the Jews if we allow any sensible gun control!!!!’” — ignoring that every nation on Earth has some type.
     
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    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just stay calm and think it through. Your approach to people being guilty before being proven innocent goes against everything America stands for.
     
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    With rights come duties, and the first duty of the State is to protect the citizens.

    When an unbalanced man can so easily find a way to kill dozens of people, it's because his right to acquire a type of gun (assault rifle for example) is in direct conflict with public safety.
     
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    What is being said is, if you think this country will ever keep a gun from a lunatic with a goal to slaughter people in mass then you are going to be sadly disappointed with that sort of thought process!
     
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    Your rebuttal post (of THIS post) "went away" for some reason before I was able to tear the **** out of that one as well.

    But look at YOUR OWN QUOTE ABOVE.

    Your claim:

    “The UK, as well as every other European country, doesn't have a huge minority population like the U.S. does.”


    West Indian, Indian, and Pakistani people are not LIKE the minorities that reside in this country.

    You know these facts yet you argue like they aren't even there.

    Funny.
     
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    You cloud the concept of a living God by the existence of mans various religions and dogmas so as to conceal, disparage, and dismiss God, as if choosing to do evil should reflect negatively upon the pure power of choice and all the good that ever was or will be done. In so doing you judge wrongly. There's a difference between God and religion. You may as well surround the innocent with the guilty and summarily execute him as they did to the Prophets of old. You also diminish the characters of our founders who, at the worlds forefront, established this nation and put us on freedoms path. Then you quote them out of context and by the gravitas of their good character, buoy your conclusion as if to float on a stolen ship and purpose yourself on that which you despise. Do you not see the conflict in your reasoning, the dearth of honor and understanding? Unbelief seems to be the natural state of man. With priestcrafts and superstitions being the preferred couch of the masses.
     
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    I know of no such thing. Could you be more specific, or elaborate on your statement?
     
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    What duties come with the right to keep and bear arms?
    What duties come with the right to have an abortion?
    Demonstrate your answers to be true.
     
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    Where did I mention guilt or innocence?
    I disagree with you on what America stands for, as do the majority of voters. Maybe you are the one that needs to “just stay calm and think it through”...
     
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    There is zero evidence of a god or gods.

    Your book written by man, edited by kings and mistranslated by scholars (many with an agenda) do not prove the affirmative — they actually prove the opposite.

    That isn’t saying that there isn’t some supreme being but acting like any of us would even remotely be able to understand it — or what it would want — is the ultimate sign of mans arrogance.
     
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    Don't use them to kill innocent poeple.

    Do I need to explain more?
     
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    First, you say this ^^^^
    Then you say this ^^^^
    :lol:
    On average, per year, ~4x more kids die in school bus accidents (6.27/yr) than from 'assault weapons' in a school shooting (1.62/yr)
    https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/road-users/school-bus/
    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/
     
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    Then you agree:
    The --HUGE-- majority of gun owners satisfy their duty as related to their exercise of their right to keep and bear arms.
    Yes.
    What duties come with the right to have an abortion?
    Demonstrate your answers to be true.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you want to discuss children’s lives lost to busses we can absolutely do so. I believe they should be regulated and have additional safety systems installed. Autonomous systems should also be employed.

    Or are you saying that because more children lose their lives in bus crashes we shouldn’t worry about the ones that are murdered?
     

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