10 Signs That “Things Are Getting Better In America”

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    "Successful nation" - what is it?
    For example, were the Romans a successful nation? Were the barbarians successful? How did it end I must tell you?
     
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    Rome wasn't a nation, and judging by Russia's history barbarians do a poor job of running nations.
     
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    Hmm... maybe 2008 is just around the corner?
     
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    The main problem is that you have borrowed too much cash, your stock market is juiced and your elites have been selling off American jobs. You could either say that it's unfettered - or manipulated capitalism. There's tons of money in America and the rich are still getting richer.

    At a political level your real problems started when conservatives stopped doing what they do best. And that is fiscally conserve. Then the balance between right and left was lost.
     
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    What the British do or don't do has nothing to do with Capitalism.
    Capitalism in it's truest sense means the right to buy and sell, and
    make your own economic decisions.

    ps I am related to Cynthia Parker. Her son was Quanah Parker
    I reckon the Comanches, in their imperial wars, were the cruelest
    people to ever live.
     
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    It doesnt take much for you to lose track of the conversation.
     
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    Housing market today is nothing like 2008.
     
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    Barbarians may be bad at running the nation, but what has Russia to do with it? If you look at the size of the Russian territory, it is obvious that the Russians are very good at governing.
     
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    Lenin called the last stage of capitalism - imperialism. We are now seeing this.
     
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    1. Capitalism is the exploitation of wage labor and surplus value.
    2. Start with the Comanche defending their territory. The Comanches did not invade Britain or France. Is not it?
     
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    Are you talking about the Russian empire or the Chinese one?
     
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    No, real Capitalism is the right to buy and sell. If you have a simple 'Kulak' peasant
    with a shop or a cow in 1917 the Bolsheviks would probably kill you for being a
    'Capitalist.' Same in North Korea today if you decide to set up a roadside stall and
    sell flowers.
    The Left start out with cries about 'big business' and then in power 'medium business'
    and then 'small business' and then 'any business.'
    Something like this happened in Venezuela - they took the 'big farms' of 1,000 hectare.
    Then came the 500 hectare farms, and then..... you get the idea....

    The Comanches invaded territory held by Apaches and other groups. They then
    invaded Mexico, nearly all the way to Mexico City. But this was more than invasion, it
    was cold, sadistic killings that set them apart.

    People are people. Someone saying that 'white' people did something are outright
    racists.
     
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    You write nonsense about the Soviet Union. I think you are a victim of American propaganda.
    Under Comrade Stalin or under Comrade Lenin, no one ever forbade people to have a private enterprise.
    Read, for example, the 1936 Constitution of the USSR. Article 9.
    "Along with the socialist economic system,
    which is the dominant form of economy in the USSR, the private economy of individual peasants and handicraftsmen, based on personal labor and excluding the exploitation of other people's labor, is permitted by law." http://www.hist.msu.ru/ER/Etext/cnst1936.htm
     
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    I said I agree with some of the above. Where did you read that I said the author was lying?

    The author's priority is to sell a book. You don't think he used partisan hyperbole to snag more customers?

    I do.
     
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    And did not this constitution 'guarantee' the right to vote?
    But there was only one party - so you had no right to vote.
    It's almost the same in Russia under Putin today.
    Old saying in South Vietnam after the fall of Saigon - 'don't
    listen to what they say, watch what they do.'
     
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    Of course, the 1936 constitution USSR guaranteed the right to vote. And the Russians fully enjoyed this right. For example, if the citizens of the USSR voted against Trotsky's position, then Trotsky lost.
    Don't judge by the USA. In the United States, this is the right to vote only on paper. This is what we see in the presidential elections in USA. As well as the deceitful American media, which even the President of the United States called fake news.
    In the United States, the election system of the times of the slave system. But you are trying to show the US electoral system as an example of democracy. :roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
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    Yes, slaves in southern states did not have the right to vote.
    nor women probably.
    not sure if prisoners and illegal immigrants get that right today.
    but eventually voting rights were extended to other groups.

    Not so in Russia. Voting rights are just another Potemkin village affair.
    Putin, like many dictators today, likes the idea of an opposition party,
    just so long as they stay in opposition. And if some parties should start
    to become popular then their leaders will be jailed, banished or killed.
     
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    So you had the 'right' to a private business? Why couldn't Russians therefor
    actually own such businesses?
    Read an article, back in the 1960's which stuck with me: family business in
    East Germany made jam for generations. The Communists took over the
    business, no compensation, and ran it themselves. The jam became like
    Soviet jam - poor quality, no taste. The question was asked, "Why does the
    Communist Party think it can make jam?" The truth is that the quality of the
    jam is not an issue - it's who owns the jam factory that matters.
     
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    Did you live in the USSR? If not, why are you writing nonsense?
    Some information for you.
    In the USSR, there was 100% free education, including a university.
    In the USSR, there was 100% free medical care of any complexity.
    In the USSR, anyone could get free housing. (the norm was at least 18 square meters per 1 person of usable area (usable area, this is without taking into account auxiliary areas, that is, excluding the kitchen, utility rooms, balcony, toilet, bathroom ... etc.)
    There was no unemployment in the USSR.
    In the USSR, women during pregnancy and after childbirth received fully paid leave to care for a child up to three years ... and much more.
    Is there such a thing in the USA?
     
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    In the USSR, during the time of Comrade Stalin, millions of people were engaged in private production (artisans or artels - an association of several people). By the way, collective farms are also private organizations, where peasants united for the production of agricultural products. (state agrarian enterprises were called "state farms"). Therefore, do not believe the myths that the peasants were forced to enter the collective farm. Some peasants entered and left the collective farm several times.
    The collective farm is actually an agricultural complex, the profits were distributed among all members of the collective farm. Under Comrade Stalin, non-state enterprises in the USSR were engaged in various activities - from the food industry to metalworking and from jewelry to the chemical industry.
    They, artels, produced 40% of furniture, 70% of metal utensils, more than a third of all knitwear, almost all children's toys ... In the business sector, there were about a hundred design bureaus, 22 experimental laboratories and even two research institutes.
    For example, the first Soviet tube receivers, the first radio systems in the USSR, the first television sets with a cathode-ray tube were produced by the Leningrad artel "Progress-Radio".
     
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    If I recall the death toll from Stalin's collectivization was about ten million. It's been said that only
    'uncle Joe' Stalin could pull off the collectivization - you needed someone ruthless if you were
    going to take away people's land and shove them into a 'commons' situation. I think about 80
    million died in China too.
    Stalin declared that any peasant with two cows or 6 acres of land was a blood sucking Kulak.
    Lucky Kulaks got deported, the rest murdered.
    Imagine, owning two cows was a death sentence, same if you owned a piece of machinery
    (this was formally itemized by Stalin.)
    "Now we have the opportunity to carry out a resolute offensive against the kulaks, break their resistance,
    eliminate them as a class and replace their production with the production of kolkhozes and sovkhozes.}
    Stalin 1929.


    Yes I do believe the 'propaganda.' Given that all this was hidden from Western eyes it was most
    likely worse than we imagine.
     
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    100% free medical care. According to Putin, half of all hospitals in Russia have no hot running water.
    The life span of a Russian is about 20 years less than a European or American.
    Your average nurse earns about half of what an unemployed person gets in welfare in Australia.
    Australia has a GDP close to that of huge Russia.
     
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    1.
    Apparently you are confusing the death toll in American prisons in the 1930s with the number of prisoners in Stalin's time.
    One example. In the most "terrible" year of 1937 in the entire USSR (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus ... and so on. There are 14 republics in total), the number of prisoners was 887,133. (Once again - throughout the USSR, 14 republics)
    In the USA, in 2020, in myron time, in the 21st century, the number of prisoners is 2,094,000.
    Therefore, there is no need to tell nonsense about the "tyrant" Stalin.
    2.
    Do you know who a "Kulak" is? According to the explanatory dictionary of Vladimir Dahl, published long before the revolution in Russia, a "kulak" is a rural usurer.
    For example, Yeltsin's father was a fist. But no one shot him, no one oppressed him. The son of this kulak, Boris Yeltsin, graduated from high school, graduated from the university (completely free of charge) and made a career.
    ...
    Reading your comments gives the impression that you are wander in one's mind..... Or you absolutely do not know what you are writing about.
     
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    Can you be aware of what you read?
    I wrote - in the USSR. What's not clear?
    Modern Russia is not the USSR.
     
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    So instead of half of all hospitals in Russia, could we say less than half
    during Soviet times?
    Neither Soviet or Russian times seem very good to Western eyes.
     

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