31 Reasons why I won't take the injection

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  1. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Reasons to take the injection include potentially saving lives and allowing everything to reopen safely that much sooner. Seems to me these reasons take precedence over any reasons against taking it.
     
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    I’m trying to get you to educate yourself on immunity so you stop denying the existence of sterilizing immunity. I quoted your false statement. I did not interact with anyone but you.

    I’d like you to answer my questions if you can. If you can’t, please refrain from talking about Covid vaccines and vaccines in general. False information like you are presenting is responsible for many people not wanting to be vaccinated. When you claim vaccines don’t prevent infection many see no point in being vaccinated. We must be honest about these vaccines. What credibility the bureaucratic medical and scientific communities have left depends on it.
     
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    Far less dangerous than the disease it's meant to prevent, statistically speaking.
     
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    you don't have to admit it, it's ok
     
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    feel free to tell us what you think you know, otherwise stop telling other to stop posting what they know - vaccines teach your body how to fight the virus, nothing more, it's then up to your body to fight it off

    no, facts do not scare people off, people lying to them scare them off

    people should want to train their immune system, thus get the vaccine, when people lie to them that it prevents them from ever having to fight off the virus then some people say that vaccined individuals tested positive, they ask why should I get the vaccine, tell people the truth
     
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    According to some immunologists IF (I say if because it is still an unknown) there are adverse reactions to the man made treatment those things will not surface for at least 3 to 4 years.

    I am not an anti-vaxxer, I just chose not to be part of this experiment on the general population when I have such a large % of survivability and am healthy even for my age.
     
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    that was fake news, Bill Gates already got the shot, that right there should say the rest of the website is bunk

    Bill Gates, like Trump, got the vaccine in January

    https://www.livemint.com/companies/people/bill-gates-receives-covid-19-vaccine-11611532254986.html
     
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    I have been fully vaccinated. I'm not particularly happy about it, but I did it, if for no other reason that to be able to travel as I am want to do. The CDC now says that folks who are vaccinated no longer need to wear masks, or practice social distancing. When corporate america finally adopts this new set of conditions in using their services, I'll start using them again. Seems that virtue signaling does have its costs these days.

    I doubt we'll ever see the statistics on adverse reactions because this administration while entirely focusing on fear wants only their version of fear to be what the public responds to. It seems awfully hard for them to walk back their own misgivings about vaccinations that they themselves suggested wouldn't be effective (fear button) or that they were Trumpian (fear button) or that it was racist. (fear button) All of which were uttered by both the Pres, and VP, as well as their gaggle of minions, and dutifully reported as news.

    And suddenly Joe is maskless in the world. Perhaps the PR folks thought he needed to show folks his teeth again. Likely something that superficial that passes as world news these days.

    My thought is this though. WuFlu has come, and there's a vaccine. If the vaccine is ineffective, we should all be able to sue for damages should they emerge. And we should all be able to litigate against a government who caused such unbelievable damage to our nation to win an election. Biden is in the position of being the cause of both. 2022 can't get here fast enough.
     
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    I corrected that, I thought you were the one I replied too, my mistake
     
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    I stated fact, nothing more, nothing less

    what I said : "the vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus, it only trains your body to fight it off"

    now you could say if enough get the vaccine, it will prevent the virus from spreading, thus may prevent you from ever getting the virus - I agree with that too
     
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    You gave numbers, just convert them to a percentage.
     
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    The reasons you cited are politically supplied and endorse downright lies.

    Look at the percentage who have died vs the number infected. Not nearly the disaster they claim and no where near the fatalities they claim.

    The government is lying, again.
     
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    You cite your sources as infallible, cite THEM.

    You can't demand something of others when you refuse to comply with those demands yourself. When you can't, or won't, that is called lying.
     
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    I will admit it when you admit that you are full of BS. It is typical of your type.
     
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    Someone is lying, but it sure isn't the gubmint.

    I said that, statistically speaking, the vaccinations are far safer than Covid-19. Refusing to take a vaccine over concerns while dismissing the threat posed by the live virus is just dumb.
     
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    yep, sure, my posts speak for themselves, as do yours, we know who is "full of BS" as you say
     
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    Or, you could truthfully say that no one knows what the long term effect of these shots will be. That is a fact, on you seem intent on ignoring just to further your ignorance.
     
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    I never commented either way on the long term effects, but you can feel free too
     
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    And exactly what "numbers" did I give? You, again, are making up things and calling them facts. BTW, it appears that you don't know what an actual fact is.
     
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    So you seem to admit that you don't know what you are talking about. Figures.
     
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    Been there, done that. No worries. :)
     
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    Believing the government lies without investigating is what is really dumb. Ignoring facts that do not agree with your claims is dumb.

    That being said, guess what that makes you.
     
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    You are right, and it is you who are full of BS. Promoting without investigating and denying any dissent if what you do, and that makes you a doubtful and unreliable source of information.
     
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    Just another example of not knowing what or who he is speaking to, just making biased statements with the hope of not getting called out on it.
     
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    not sure how you got that, but ok, why don't you tell us what you think the long term effects will be
     
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