Senate Democrats propose requiring women to register for military draft

Yes. Let’s hope.

 

Potato.

 

I had a tough time deciding whether to enroll in the past - under this "administration" concocted out of mass mail out ballots, ballot harvesting, internet connectivity voting tabulators, ballots never actually folded and identically marked, missing envelopes, no signature verification ... Yehh - One might need to institute a draft cus who would want to fight for the trajectory of this "Nation" - without boarders or Core Scruples of true democracy?

 

Women who are "willing to do their duty" can carry out their duties in more ways than one. It's fair.

Great way to make all those Progressive women join in on all the equality, while sparing Conservative women from the same.

 

there are more than two ways to do one's duty, and more than two ways to define what duty means. We don't need some arbitrary binary choice based on reproductive rights or military service and none of this is about who is progressive and who is conservative or 'sparing' either one.

This notion and your attempt to explain it away here is illogical and desperate. You'd be better off to stick to the topic of this thread, which is not abortion.

 

China is the only super power that can really hurt us and it's through cyber warfare. They have a ton of ballistic missiles that can't travel very far so they could keep our navy away for a few weeks. Russia is still a super power but nowhere close to that of China or America.

A world war would cripple the world economically. If every country but America was blocked from getting oil they would lose the war but the world aftermath economically would devastate America.

We don't need any more world wars and unless if there is genocide I'm against getting involved in smaller wars.

 

The anti-war left died in the 80's.

 

But the principle remains the same. You made a statement of fact that you could never lead people into battle that were drafted. That means WW2.

 

I already said what you do. You register and serve as your biological sex, what you are born.

 

Government IS men. I don't know anyone who "supports war" but when war becomes a necessity do you support it or would you allow our enemies to succeed in our destruction and takeover?

 

Well it might help in scheduling that phyisical if there is a call up. Checking either male or female on your registration form should not be a problem.

 

I reject your premise.

Government are your rulers, and today it is no different than before. The are the ruling elite. War is waged for their benefit, and not yours. War is never necessary.

 

1. LOL, they are going to be doing some more information gathering and providing long before they call you -up for your actual physical, like letting you know that you have been 'called up' for the draft . Its not like they just say 'Congrats, next Tuesday is your physical"
2. When they decide to give you a physical, your gender is not going to be a problem or some logistics concern. They already have plenty of women getting physicals for enlistment. They know how to do this in a streamline approach.

Evidently you do care about gender to register, or you would not insist on asking the question. Which means you want to make a political statement out of this gender thing and use it in this thread to strut your transphobia.

 

And that is why men and women go through training to see if they qualify for the job.

 

It's a fact. I could not lead people into battle who were forced to be there against their will.

 

So you would have refused to fight in WW2

 

I have said no difference what's your point. You DO have to register when you turn 18 and everyone can check a box there male or female. Then when you get a notice for a physical you go.
2. When they decide to give you a physical, your gender is not going to be a problem or some logistics concern. They already have plenty of women getting physicals for enlistment. They know how to do this in a streamline approach.[/quote]
I could he streamlined from the get go. Check the box on the registration.

Ad homs the best you got?

 

Did I say that? Did I even hint at that? No. Let's move on to another straw-man.

 

I support this equality

 

I do not support a drafting anyone.

 

I could he streamlined from the get go. Check the box on the registration.


Ad homs the best you got?[/QUOTE]
I have recommended getting rid of the 'box' so that nobody has to be defined or has to define themselves by their gender or gender identity to register. Nobody has to worry about how a transgender marks the boxes either, if the boxes are not there. More to the point, its nobody's business who is male, female, intersex, or transitioning. All you do, by providing the information earlier than necessary, is increase the chances someone will discriminate based on that information, which is what we all purportedly want to avoid anyway. The doctor giving the physical and the patient receiving the physical, get to sweat that issue out, if there is one, in the privacy of that doctor/ patient interaction.

 

Just to point out, your argument is not logical.
You are saying my proposal is bad because it presents a limited binary choice.
But the alternative (the one that the Democrats are now proposing) would only prevent a single choice.
Meaning my alternative proposal offers more choice and is better.

That's got to be a logical fallacy of some sort. When there are two options and you're trying to argue against your opponent's option by pointing out a certain negative aspect of it, when that same type of argument applied to your proposed alternative would make your option look even worse.

 

Government of the people, by the people and for the people.

And your utopian dreams a side I can assure you there are countries who would like nothing more than to see us destroyed.

If you don't think is was necessary to stop the NAZI's and the Empower of Japan in WW2 you know very little of world history.

Why we ARE male or female. Why should we ignore that because .001% like to pretend they are the opposite.

 

What the hell are you talking about? Here was the post

"Women who are "willing to do their duty" can carry out their duties in more ways than one. It's fair.
Great way to make all those Progressive women join in on all the equality, while sparing Conservative women from the same."

You offered exactly two ways in your wacko post I quote below. And then you offered women exactly two 'life courses' Yep they only get two in your binary world.

"Here's a compromise:
How about when a woman turns 18 she can choose between 2 different life courses. One of them makes her eligible for the draft, the other she is not allowed to get an elective abortion"

Nobody is requiring anyone to join the military as a 'life course' because there is no draft and the proposed change does not get us any closer to a draft. Nor is anyone ever forced to get, or not to get an abortion as the other 'life course' either in or outside the military.

I am not arguing for one 'life course' or two 'life courses' I am arguing for 100 life course.


For some bizarre notion, you have it in your head that banning gender discrimination under the selective service act, is a partisan political position because some Democrats in the Senate have proposed it. Have you not noticed that in this thread there is plenty of bipartisan support for the idea that if people regardless of gender, want the right to enlist, the right to serve their country in the military, the right to be considered for promotion in every branch of the military including the very highest levels as admirals and generals, then people regardless of gender have an equal responsibility to register.

That is a simple concept, its equitable and it treats men, women and transgender persons as though they can all play a role in defending their country and they ought to act as though they all can play a role. Its not a liberal or conservative view and it has nothing to do whether any of them ought to be conscripted or drafted, (which I happen to oppose) That is a separate debate.

And it sure has nothing to do with abortion. Its not 'fair' to any of us talking about selective service to derail this thread with your pro life crap. So stop using this issue and thread as your 4,757th 'abortion- is- murder' soap box.

 

Your argument is being extremely disingenuous here.

If that were irrelevant here, Senate Democrats would not be pushing for women to be eligible for the draft.

You're trying to argue that making a group eligible for the draft has nothing to do with whether that group ought to be conscripted or drafted??
That's a very stretched and tenuous argument to try to make, don't you think?