a letter about the arizona "audit"

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  1. ShadowX

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    You’ll have to excuse me not caring when you talk about hipaa violations while your side demands proof of medical records for vaccination.

    But nevertheless, if Maricopa county can access those records that you claim shouldn’t be accessed because of hipaa, then the senate has just as much right and authority to access them.
     
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    A third party is involved here.

    Since you apparently don’t see the problem, why don’t you post your name, address, and copies of your SSN, drivers license, and medical records in this thread?
     
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    so, a non certified election auditor is auditing a certified election? by the way, this auditing of an already recounted and certified election by an ad hoc (and partisan) corporation reeks of ex post facto.
     
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    A third party who is employed by the senate. Which makes them a de facto extension of the senate.

    By the way why don’t you have a problem with the tens of thousands of election volunteers who had access to that information on the ballot envelopes? Except the medical information which I’m sure cyberninjas and the senate would be happy to exclude from assessment.

    Would that make you feel better since all of the other information you referenced was readily accessible by any random volunteer who had access to the envelopes during the count?
     
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    There’s no such thing as a certified election auditor.

    An audit is used to determine whether or not there were vulnerabilities within the system which were exploited. An action which should be taken after any large scale change in procedures like we had in the last election.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Fraud" is less and less about proof yet more and more about pretense. Pretense for challenging an outcome Repub controlled legislatures are unhappy with.

    There is no shortage of job openings for local election officials in Michigan. It’s the same in Pennsylvania. Wisconsin, too.

    After facing threats and intimidation during the 2020 presidential election and its aftermath, and now the potential of new punishments in certain states, county officials who run elections are quitting or retiring early. The once quiet job of election administration has become a political minefield thanks to the baseless claims of widespread fraud that continue to be pushed by many in the Republican Party.

    The exits raise a pressing question: Who will take these jobs? Barb Byrum, clerk of Ingham County, Michigan, has an idea.

    “These conspiracy theorists are in it for the long haul. They’re in it to completely crumble our republic, and they’re looking at these election administrator positions,” said Byrum, a Democrat. “They’re playing the long game.”

    https://apnews.com/article/election...sinformation-3b810d8b3b3adee2ca409689788b863f
     
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    At least one Arizona state senator wants to jail the Republican-majority board of supervisors in Maricopa County after the county rejected new subpoenas from the Senate for election materials.

    “I would have arrested all of these people already if I had the power to do so. I vote to arrest. Arrest and put them in solitary,” State Sen. Wendy Rogers (R) tweeted Monday, after the chair of Maricopa County’s board rejected the new subpoenas.

    Rogers kept tweeting. “Patriots activate. They are acting guilty. If it walks like a duck….” she wrote, adding a few minutes later: “I would like to know if we have enough solitary confinement cells in Arizona available for the entire Maricopa Board of Supervisors and the execs at the fraud machine company. We are going to need a lot.”

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...uggests-imprisoning-maricopa-county-officials

    "They are acting guilty." As I predicted they would, Trumpette's are using the rejection of subpoenas as a ways to perpetuate the madness. The question for Arizonians is what to do about a crackpot like Wendy. The obvious answer in the past would be vote her out. But what happens when reps have a district full of crackpots? Answer: you get dysfunctional government. Just what we have on a national scale.
     
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    According to what i have read, all that is required for chain of custody for the machines is a secure location and logs of who was involved with the machines.
    Are you saying that you know the auditors did not secure the machines or log who worked with the machines?
     
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    So, anything in the election such as machines, ballots, envelopes, tablets, computers, routers and such should have a proper "chain of custody" or be discarded. Correct?
     
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    No it’s not you’re simply being silly. Yeah, voters are required to write their ssn and dl number on ballot envelopes.

    What valid reason would an audit have in accessing that type of information (and more)?

    There is not one.
     
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    Sure, you know that! You've been there...:roll:
     
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    Do you write your own jokes?
     
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    He's as much of a Republican as Liz Cheney, John McCain, and the rest of the RINO's.
     
  14. freedom8

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    So, you need to be a moron to be considered a "good" republican?
     
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    If you say so.

    Binary thinking is faulty, as evidenced here.

    He's not a Democrat. That's just reality. Getcha some.
     
  16. Xyce

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    You need to be a patriot to be a Republican. Those people aren't / weren't.

    Speaking of morons, you can't be a patriot if you are a Democrat. A patriotic Democrat is oxymoronic.
     
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    Oxymoron. Wasn't Trump addicted to that ****?

    Any loyalty to Trump is traitorous. The opposite of patriotic. Patriotism is love of country. Love of one man is a cult.
     
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  18. Xyce

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    Before you posted that, did you kiss your Tony Fauci poster? Did you pray with your Bob Mueller votive candles?
     
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  19. Rampart

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    sure. i can't think of anything that does not in the elections i have worked. including the pens and the booklet of state election law.
     
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    of course not. we do not think like you do about "strong leaders."
     
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    I don't know if he did, but it would still be much less disgusting than your kissing Trump's a$$!
     
  22. Xyce

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    You sure this candle does not belong to you?

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    Let me ask you a question about Bob Mueller. When he worked in the Bush Administration, he was always just called Bob Mueller or Robert Mueller, more formally. But then when he was tasked with investigating Trump, he became Robert S. Mueller III, as if he were a king. Did you ever refer to Robert Mueller as Robert S. Mueller III, when that BS Special Counsel investigation saturated the "news"?
     
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    quote sure. no, nor did i ever think that the guy associated with so many fbi failures (whitey bulger, pan am 103, the olympic bombing, the anthrax letters) appointed by republicans to investigate trump would ever discover the obvious.
     
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    Nah, it’s called reporting facts.
     
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    The chain of custody is an established process for handling and documenting information which has legal standing. The issue with this particular company is they don't have any election auditing experience so just by having the machines without the chain of custody documents renders them "void" (in a sense).

    For example, let's say 10 people worked in a factory that made a finished food product. Each person is responsible for their portion of the recipe and they have to be added in a specific order. If even one of those steps is missed the whole batch is rendered "defective". You can't just go back and do it over. It's voided.

    I don't work for the government or any election board in the US so I'm not saying that I *know* anything more about the situation in AZ than anybody who has access to the internet.

    My best guess is there will be some kind of legal action taken against the people involved in commissioning the company (doesn't sound like they were vetted well) and against the company for the "tainting" of the machines. I don't see how or why the people of AZ should be stuck with a bill to pay for new equipment because somebody decided to let some kids play with big boy toys.
     
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