Thanks to Joe Biden the Taliban Now has Over 200 Military Aircraft — Ranks them as #26 in List of Na

No. I'm not getting it. They are not China parted Ancient equipment. They still have US weapons systems, encrypted communications, all L model upgrades, and other necessary systems to have any value on the battlefield. They just don't have our latest weapons and communications upgrades.

Which means China would love to get their hands on them for several reasons. Exposing flight envelops, suppression capabilities, operational range, air refueling capabilities, encrypted communications protocol's, small arms and ballistic protections, blade compositions, transmission design.

Have you ever seen a Mi17? Its clunky in comparison.

 

China already have their own equivalent equipment and if China wanted to see what the US gave to Afghanistan they can get all that from their allies such as Lebanon who bought MD530Gs which has more advanced equipment than the UH-60A+ given to the Afghans

Believe me, China already knows the spec and capabilities of any equipment in the Afghan aircraft and would be able to duplicate it if they so wished. What they would like to know are the top secret data such as the operating frequencies of any new equipment that the US have recently produced.

 

China has been trying to reverse engineer the UH-60 since 1990. It built the Z-20 which is called the copy Hawk. But it has transmission problems as well as other design flaws. It was copied from the civilian 60 (70c).

Currently today they still fly the Mi17 as their main attack helicopter but the UH-60 outperforms it in every way. With the US arms embargo they don't have the more powerful engines or any of the upgraded electronics and the most important part which is the transmission.

Your idea of what China has and what China wants is nothing but you guessing.

 

did you check up your rectum?

 

From one of the Marines parents:

Finally heard from our son! He has a severe concussion. Both ear drums ruptured. Both of his arms are broken and one leg. But thank God he is alive! He is safely in Germany and his mama bear is on the way to his side. Thank you all for your prayers!

 

That happens anytime a long occupation is ended. Democrats and Republicans alike wanted out so it was unavoidable.

Many were likely sabotaged

 

We once sold a bunch of printers to Saddam Hussein. We knew they would be used for military sites.

So we put homing beacons in all of the printers. When the Gulf war started, we remotely activated the beacons and programmed our cruise missiles to follow the signals. We wiped out dozens of secret military sites with the first strike.

You can be sure we have many tricks like this up our sleeves.

 

Latest from Afghanistan: Biden: 'We will not forgive'; Navy confirms 13th US service member killed in Kabul (msn.com)
Biden won't believe that ISIS is sorry for killings. Who can blame him for that. I should have known that there would be chaos and consequences that would occur and it did happen. I won't be surprised if there is more to come and it won't surprise me if more violence and more killings happen. What can be done to stop this? I don't think anything can be done at this time. There will probably be another war on terror and it will be a bloody one at that.

 

True...for that they'll have to implement the Erik Prinz plan to furnish them a sufficient number of mercenaries (Prinz presented that "privatization plan" to Trump a couple of years ago).

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...eover-of-afghanistan/articleshow/85688838.cms

Pakistan's reputation in West to plummet after Taliban takeover of Afghanistan
ANI / Aug 27, 2021, 19:54 IST

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan, nominally a US partner in the war against terrorism, sees the Taliban's victory as its own in Afghanistan.

Jane Perlez, in an article in The New York Times said that Pakistan's already shaky reputation in the West is likely to plummet now, as the Taliban take over Afghanistan.

Calls to sanction Pakistan have already circulated on social media. Moreover, amid the absence of foreign financing, Pakistan will have to rely on a jihadist drug trade encouraged by the new rulers in Kabul. A Taliban-run state on its border will no doubt embolden Taliban and other Islamist terrorists in Pakistan itself, said Perlez.

Pakistan was ostensibly America's partner in the war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Its military won tens of billions of dollars in American aid over the last two decades, even as Washington acknowledged that much of the money disappeared into unaccounted sinkholes.

In the last three months as the Taliban swept across Afghanistan, the Pakistani military waved a surge of new fighters across the border from sanctuaries inside Pakistan, tribal leaders have said. It was a final coup de grace to the American-trained Afghan security forces, said Perlez.

"The Pakistanis and the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) think they have won in Afghanistan," said Robert L Grenier, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) station chief in Pakistan. But, he warned, the Pakistanis should watch what they wish for. "If the Afghan Taliban becomes leaders of a pariah state, which is likely, Pakistan will find itself tethered to them."

Perlez also said that Pakistan is not only the real winner. Pakistan, along with China is helping fill the space the Americans have vacated in Afghanistan after the Taliban takeover. The embassies of the two nations have remained open since the Taliban seized Kabul.

A Pakistani protege, Khalil Haqqani, a Taliban leader who was a regular visitor to Pakistan's military headquarters in Rawalpindi, is one of the new rulers of Afghanistan, reported The New York Times.

Known to American intelligence as the Taliban emissary to Al Qaeda, Haqqani showed up in Kabul last week as their new chief of security, brazenly armed with an American-made M4 rifle, with a protection squad dressed in American combat gear.

The nexus between the Pakistanis and the victorious Haqqani was indisputable and indispensable to the Taliban victory, said Douglas London, a former CIA counterterrorism chief for South and Southwest Asia.

The head of the Pakistani army, Qamar Javed Bajwa, and the head of the ISI, Hameed Faiz, met with Haqqani on a "recurring basis," London said. The extended Haqqani family has long been known to live in the largely ungoverned areas of Pakistan along the Afghan border, reported The New York Times.

Pakistan's help, he said, encompassed a gamut of services. Safe havens in the borderlands of Pakistan, particularly in the city of Quetta, sheltered Afghan Taliban fighters and their families.

Medical services treated wounded fighters, sometimes in hospitals in the major cities, Karachi and Peshawar. Free rein for the Haqqanis to run lucrative real estate, smuggling and other businesses in Pakistan kept their war machine churning, reported The New York Times.

The ISI also provided the Taliban with assets that elevated their international status. The Taliban leader Abdul Ghani Baradar travelled on a Pakistani passport to attend peace talks in Doha, Qatar, and to meet in Tianjin, China, with Wang Yi, the Foreign Minister.

 

OK then precisely how did he 'change the deal'? (Other than delaying the final withdrawal date by 4 months that is.) facts please - pony up. What specific changes did he make? Because I'm honestly unaware of any. Botching the withdrawal? Probably, albeit we don't know at this point what advice he was given and when he received it. Changing the agreement? Prove it.

 

U.S. Launches Strike on ISIS-K as Bombing’s Death Toll Soars (msn.com)
The U.S. Forces are going launch a secret and surprise attack on ISIS wherever they are hiding and will get them good. Teaching them "Don't mess with the U.S.

 

I try to not fall prey to hate but your honesty about yours is refreshing and informative. Thank you for sharing your statement and your opinion.

Sure, generalizations are or may not be not accurate regarding an individual, after all it is a generalization.

Which Trump Admin policies did you hate? His leadership regarding; border/immigration, the economy, energy independence, America first, his respect for our military service members, supporting law enforcement, putting American farmers, working class people ahead of Chinese Communist Party and its membership…?

Have you served, any family still serving in America’s military?

 

That, in and of itself was a dealbreaker.

 

Very few want war but how often has the earth been free of it? There will always be a war, and a war on the horizon.

A good leader takes the needed direction not the easy, popular or expedient one. I want a leader not a drinking buddy.

You must love Biden? He is the antithesis of Trump. What’s your sentiment regarding chaos?

 

That would only matter if it changed the outcome. Certainly the Taliban didn't call it out as breaking the agreement - or at least I haven't seen report where they did so.

Are you seriously going to suggest that withdrawing four months earlier would have changed the outcome of the war? The Taliban wouldn't have taken over? But for that delay they would have sat down then Afgan Government an negotiated a deal and the Afgan army would have held its ground while they did? Because if anything the extra four months should have given the coalition backed government and its army more time to prepare and get ready for the transition! Instead of folding like cheap paper.

 

For some reason people have this idea that aircraft are shockingly difficult to pilot. They're not. The Taliban were caught on camera just yesterday flying a chopper around with a hanged man dangling from a rope attached to the feet of the aircraft.

Maintainence is another issue entirely, but it's important not to underestimate the power of nation states with tens of millions of people.

Some of them are going to be very technically gifted. Some of them are going to have completed advanced degrees around the world. Some of them were trained by the Americans in repairing vehicles.

 

An impeachment will not be successful, I say we bide our time until 2022 when he loses his ability to do anything he wants. He's then a sitting duck until 2024 unable to give free **** in exchange for votes.

The worst case would be Kamala taking over.

 

You understand when violating terms of the agreement it voids an agreement? It obviously DID change the outcome....

 

How do you know, because you haven't answered the key question. What, in your opinion would have been different if the US pulled out 4 months ago on schedule?

Because as I noted the Taliban don't appear to have been bothered by the delay. Don't agree? Point to the publicly delivered messages where they did so. Which IMO indicates the Biden administration was in contact with the Taliban via their representatives in DOHA as per Trump's time in office when the deal was agreed to.

 

Defending the biggest military scandal in American history? and the Left wonders why there is a deep divide in American culture , it's because of them.. they are evil and satanic.. whter they beleive in or acknowledge their master.

 

Let's break this down, since you asked.
I see it in two categories. We'll call it personal and business.
In the personal category, he isn't a good person. He has screwed people over, womanized, among a long list of other things. I don't think I need to list all of them, but suffice it to say many people agree with that, even many who voted for him. That aspect does not mean that he couldn't function as a productive and effective leader.
Which leads us to the other category: policy and effectiveness.
I really didn't like all the divisiveness. I view the role of president of the us as one who is common to all, binding us as a nation. Trump started off when he announced his candidacy being divisive, and continued his entire tenure. He attacked and criticized with seemingly little limit. He did not even attempt to bring our country together. It was the plan all along. He (or his advisors) had figured out that there was a sizable group of people who were angry and had strong feelings about some issues, and all he needed to do was agree with them and he could get their vote. If you study him over a long time, this shouldn't be any surprise.
Many of his policies didn't put American farmers and working class people ahead of the Chinese Communist party. This was an illusion. Example: He put tarrifs of goods being traded between China and the US. The idea was to cut back on the trade deficit, and was somewhat to severely painful to some Americans. But the stated goal was not achieved, as the deficit ballooned larger under Trump. Tax cuts: added enormously to the debt, but I have never seen the "trickle down" method work for anyone other than the wealthy Americans.
Gotta go, but to address your last question, never been in the military. My wife was, my son is, and I have lived in a LARGE military town for 35 years. Automation tech by trade for 35 years, now a teacher.
Which is what I have to go do now.
Hope that helps!

 

Thank you for your response. May your students always be blessed with challenging and meaningful lessons.

True, being personable is always a plus, Being liked can pay dividends too. I don’t see Pres. Biden as exceptional in either with Americans as a whole.

When I look to a leader, I look for decisive leadership and good-exceptional judgment. Biden may be an example of a “great woke social activist” leader but lacks the skill set to deal with the international actors in the real life/death world, lacks the real time good sequenced judgment on a number of important life and death issues within the borderless USA too. He is serving someone but it certainly isn’t the current active duty military and veterans (at least this one), freedom loving, constitutionally grounded Americans.

I believe something pathological is challenging this current U.S. President. Don’t know if he is an entirely aware/sentient being, just a suspicion.

 

Thank you for your response. May your students always be blessed with challenging and meaningful lessons.

True, being personable is always a plus, Being liked can pay dividends too. I don’t see Pres. Biden as exceptional in either with Americans as a whole.

When I look to a leader, I look for decisive leadership and good-exceptional judgment. Biden may be an example of a “great woke social activist” leader but lacks the skill set to deal with the international actors in the real life/death world, lacks the real time good sequenced judgment on a number of important life and death issues within the borderless USA too. He is serving someone but it certainly isn’t the current active duty military and veterans (at least this one), freedom loving, constitutionally grounded Americans.

I believe something pathological is challenging this current U.S. President. Don’t know if he is an entirely aware/sentient being, just a suspicion.

 

I liked Biden in 2008. He was sharp, knowledgeable, and seemed to have what it takes to lead our country, regardless of policy choices. Obama rose in popularity and put Biden in the passenger seat.
Fast forward to 2020. He definitely isn't what he was. But we had a binary choice, and enough of the "middle" voters had to make a choice, and the majority did not choose Trump. Biden isn't in there because he was the best choice, he's in there because he wasn't Trump.
I think the main problem is in the primaries. Not near enough people vote in the primaries, and they tend to be partisan. I'll bet most of the primary voters are not independents or middle of the road type. We don't get our best to choose from. Sometimes seems like a popularity contest.
I would like to see better quality choices, but we wind up with choices like in 2016. Bad and worse.
And by the way, thank you for your service! In the 'ville here.