Thanks to Joe Biden the Taliban Now has Over 200 Military Aircraft — Ranks them as #26 in List of Na

You're absolutely right.

The Snake Department will issue visas to Taliban members so they can come to the US and learn how to fly.

And they're still turbo-props not capable of attacking much outside of Afghanistan. Perhaps they can launch air-strike on Pakistan.

You're gonna use cruise missile to shoot down turbo-prop aircraft?

That's an asinine statement by a media pundit.

Everyone knows the Pakistani ISI is al-Qaida and/or Taliban.

If you want al-Qaida and/or the Taliban to know something, just tell someone in the Pakistani ISI.

None. President's do not draw up military operational plans.

Presidents have a staff to do that, because other than Eisencoward, there weren't any Presidents that knew how.

None of you have a clue how things work in the real world.

The battalion commander says our mission is "this."

Someone like me in S-3 along with S-2 (Intelligence) and S-4 (Logistics) plans it, my boss approves it, and we do it.

It works the same way at brigade level. The brigade commander says we've been tasked with "this" and brigade S-3, along with S-2 and S-4 plan it.

Same thing at division level. The division commander says our objective is "this" and G-3 (Operations) along with G-2 and G-4 (Intelligence & Logistics) plan it.

Corps is the same way. Command has given us "this" and J-3 (Operations) along with J-2 and J-4 (Intelligence & Logistics) plan it.

"Command" --and that would be CENTCOM here -- gets its marching orders from the Chief or the Joint Chief or the Secretary of Defense or the President.

So, the order is "withdraw."

CENTCOM plans it, not Trump, not Hiden, not the Chief, not the Joint Chief and not the Secretary of Defense.

The Chief, Joint Chief or Secretary of Defense approves it, the President's National Security Council and advisors rubber-stamp it, and the President merely says Yay or Nay.

If you all think Trump or Hiden planned this, you're off the rails.

CENTCOM planned this, CENTCOM owns it. Period. End of Story.

They did a piss-poor job planning.

Maybe they had bad intel, or maybe they had good intel but chose to ignore for political reasons or were told to ignore it for political reasons.

Doesn't matter. At the end of the day, CENTCOM owns this.

Do Presidents by themselves or at the behest of their National Security Council and/or advisors impose limitations or restrictions?

Yes, sometimes they do for perfectly legitimate reasons, or not for legitimate reasons.

Again, doesn't matter. You need to work around that and those who cannot need to resign their commissions.





The only real difference is that at division, corps and army level, G-5/J-5 might be involved and their job is "civilian affairs" and I don't mean Americans, I mean the local population.

 

When did UH-60 A/S Blackhawks with US weapons systems, encrypted communications, all L model upgrades, and other necessary systems to have any value on the battlefield become turbo props not capable of attacking much outside of Afghanistan.

I guess that settles the point that you have no idea what you're talking about. huh

 

Which countries can they attack with the blackhawks?

 

None with turbo props/ lol They are much more valuable to Chinas failed S-70 design trying to copy the Blackhawk

 

Appreciate your insight.

It seems to me that many of Pres. Biden’s choices haven been impulsive, reckless bewildering and indefensible. Shuts down the Keystone pipeline project then asks OPEC to increase production. Invites illegal aliens to flood the borders boosting Cartels’ earnings and influence, invites alien criminals to cause heartache and destruction, inviting covid19 variant illegal aliens to be resettled throughout this land,

Pres. Biden owes Chinese and Russian Communists, leaves Americans and our Allies to a fate to be determined by barbaric terrorists. Pres. Biden shows our enemies he was and can be had. Much of this was obvious to me during his campaign.

Everything affects our National security, our state of readiness. Pres. Biden is the best President America’s enemies could hope for. I have family serving, friends’ children are deployed too. We are all concerned.

 

And everyone is entitled to their OPINION. If you have those opinions, you should be concerned, just as many were concerned about the Trump administration.
I stress opinion because most of what you typed was partisan opinions. Example: he never invited illegal aliens to flood the borders. You cannot produce any evidence of this, so it is your opinion that somehow he invited someone to cross the border. I can produce a video of him telling them NOT to come.
As long as people keep opinions and facts separated, more power to you!

 

I never said Blackhawks are turbo-props. I was referring to the Brasilian-made A-29 Super Tucano.

So what if the Taliban have Blackhawks? They're not a threat and even less so since there's little ordnance left.

Have you ever flown on a Blackhawk? I doubt it.

I once scrubbed a nuclear weapons mission that cost the US tax-payers nearly $700,000 because I ordered up Hueys from 22nd Aviation for my command ship and the weather-bird, and they sent me V Corps Aviation pukes in CrashHawks.

I went down twice in CrashHawks due to mechanical failure and the 2nd time I damn near bit my tongue off because I wasn't quite strapped in since I was helping the crew chief so I ended up bouncing off my head and getting 14 stitches.

This thread is about the claim by NationTurdMaster than the Taliban has the 26th largest air force in the world.

The Taliban purportedly have 206 aircraft including:

25 A-29 Super Tucanos
10 AC-208s
49 MD-530
45 Mi-17s
45 UH-60s
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174 Total

Not exactly the 206 NationTurdMaster claims.

At the time things went bad, the Afghan Air Force had lost a 1/3rd of its aircraft to damage or maintenance issues. The figure usually cited is 163 aircraft and not NationTurdMaster's 206 aircraft.

Also, it has been confirmed that more than 45 planes and helicopters have crossed the border into neighboring Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan.

And, of the 45 BlackHawks, only 33 were operational.

Finally, here's a new word for your vocabulary: "Export Model"

Do Macy's tell Saks 5th Avenue? Nope.

Read:

“[UH-60s] are unable to accommodate some of the larger cargo items the Mi-17s can carry, and in general, it takes almost two Black Hawks to carry the load of a single Mi-17,” a May 2018 Defense Department Inspector General review reads. “Furthermore, unlike Mi-17s, Black Hawks cannot fly at high elevations and, as such, cannot operate in remote regions of Afghanistan where Mi-17s operate.”

If you think the ''Afghans" (snicker) have the same CrashHawks we do, you're sadly mistaken.

All you gotta do is read the contract that was awarded. You do know how to find military contracts, right?

 

Really, this wasn't your post to my claim.

I was talking about Blackhawks and you responded with turbo props. Could have fooled me

Yes, as a matter of fact I have, (09 Whiskey) 2nd battalion 1st aviation brigade 1978-1985 US Army

You should add this to your vocabulary (UH-60 A/S) Which is what I referred too in my post

If you knew what the A/S version was (snicker) we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we.

 

They skipped the takeoff and landing training.