Arguments for banning "sex robots"

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  1. Black Irish

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    I don't think anything of value would be lost if states decided to ban them to be honest, since they have no tasteful appeal to begin with.

    I'm sure some would complain about it for various reasons, but of course it's not a Constitutional issue (unless someone wants to try to claim a right to "marry" a sex robot), and it's already in their rights to define obscenity or "prurient" content, some of which might likewise carry over into the concerns about these idiosyncratic masturbatory aids:

    https://futurism.com/the-byte/law-experts-sex-robots
     
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    When virtual sex is a thing, we’re done. When you can just plug yourself in and have what amounts to a completely “real” encounter with anyone or anything on any terms you choose, in your brain, most won’t care about the real thing anymore, unless they can’t afford it:)
     
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    Or then they just invent a technology that prevents the brain from ever being able to perceive a sexual encounter, whether real or virtual, and have it mandatorily installed in people - then problem solved.
     
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    Here's what the article states may be of value that your 'ban' may lose.

    " However, there are also those who say that sex robots help address the sexual needs and urges for a subsection of the population including the elderly and those with disabilities, sex-related anxieties, and sexual dysfunctions.

    “Any regulation of sex robots will thus require delicate balancing of individual interests in autonomy and privacy in one’s own home and sexual relationships, with broader public interests, such as protecting adults from non-consensual sexual activity and preserving public morality,” the article said.

    I normally take a 'wait and see' approach before I propose regulating new industry. In this instance, we can afford to wait until social science can measure both a real harm, and a real benefit for public policy to balance. Lets see if anyone can show that this 'desensitizing' secondary to this technology is happening, and if there is an uptick of sexual violence to correlate with this theory.
     
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    That’s not cool at all:)
     
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    Oh it's completely cool.

    Not to mention that the imagined scenario is full of holes to begin with.
     
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    Speak for yourself. I can't even imagine why anyone short of a psychopath would come to believe that. Says more about the people panicking than it does about anyone else.
     
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    Looks to me to be that people are searching for a problem where one doesn't exist. There is no evidence that sex robots increase aggression against women. I do find it funny how its always aggression against women that people are worried about. What about men? LINK: How Often Do Women Rape Men? - The Atlantic Its higher than most people think.

    As for marrying them...already been happening. :shrug: LINK: Man who married his own sex robot is now making them for other men | Metro News No, its not considered a "legal marriage"...but there it is. :shrug:
     
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    This thread brought to you by feminists. The "we don't need a man" bs has consequences. One day, men won't need women either.
     
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    I don't think this will do anything, no robot no matter how realistic will ever be a substitute for the real thing. They are A coping mechanism or an alternative for not being able to or not wanting to form a relationship with a person.

    The only way to control this is to find out why people don't want to form relationships with other people. If you ban just one type of homunculus I'll just use something else like people have been doing for centuries.

    I think I'm better solution would be trying to encourage people to form relationships in real life versus on the internet through social media. I was lucky enough to be born before social media became really popular and the most notable thing I've noticed because of it is how fractured and distant we all have become from one another.
     
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    I'm fairly certain I'm seeing no governmental interest here whatsoever. A "sex robot" is nothing more than a life sized sex toy, a device of which is now common, easy to find, and used by both men and women, together and alone. And it most certainly is none of anyone's business, except perhaps a person's spouse, whether or not someone chooses to use one, and that's trebly true of the government. As long as they're not being used in public, I see no reason whatsoever for government to intervene- it's completely inappropriate. And likely Unconstitutional.
     
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    I think this is precisely what I was trying to say, except much more succinctly and to the point.
     
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    It's not about sex, it's about sociopathy - and the rise of the male who believes themselves entitled to things they wouldn't have access to in nature.
     
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    If you already "need" one you're a loser, and all the moreso if you need to pay thousands of dollars for a flashy masturbation aid - something which you can do for free.

    Not to mention you're just using "feminist" as a synonym for "reality" or "well-adjusted normal people".

    People of superior qualities, whether man or woman, are less likely to be 'needy' to begin with, whether today or before "feminism" was even a word.

    No one cares about your nonsensical and disingenuous claims about "no evidence" (which of course, is pretty much always a lie from the people who spout such silly claims to begin with).

    We don't have to meet your silly standards of evidence to do anything, we can get rid of them simply because we want to and we have every legal means available to do so, for any reason, such as aesthetic revulsion if nothing else.

    These "statistics" are often compounded by legally-illiterate and otherwise irrelevant idiots who don't know basic facts about the subject in question, such as the difference between forcible rape and sexual assault, and "statuatory rape".

    Since "statutory rape" doesn't involve any physical force, I wouldn't be surprised if the statistical differences between men and women are closer on that one.
     
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    And it's important to remember that 'superior qualities' have nothing to do with your looks. Behaviour is everything. Don't be an *******, retain a sense of humour, and don't be fat/addicted/lazy etc. That's all you need to do to keep yourself in favour.
     
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    They would probably be extremely popular in Japan, and I foresee the government in Japan banning them for exactly that reason, because they will exacerbate a problem that already exists in Japanese society.
     
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    We can get into even more controversial territory and talk about the possibility of child sex robots.


    Or talk about issues of consent when machine artificial intelligence advances towards a more human-like level.
     
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    Are you saying people will need a doctor's prescription or special approval to buy them?

    Will weighing 400 pounds count as a qualifying criteria?

    Maybe an age limit? Only those over 65 can buy them.
     
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    Sci-fi writers have predicated nearly everything we’re going through right now. Being able to plug our brains in or induce a waking dream that feels real through Implants, is coming fast.

    The sex robots are completely sick and twisted. Asians have been doing it for a while and that’s the land of twisted sexual fantasies, going back to the 80s with Hentai:)
     
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    Reminds me of the movie “Demolition Man”
     
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    Again, who defines where the limits of one's business "begin" and "end"?

    And please show me the "Constitutionality" on that one.

    Plenty of countries in the Western world, such as Iceland, which has completely banned sale and production of pornography - are cracking down on sexually distasteful content, and there's not much you can do about it, whether invoking likely errant notions of "Constitutionality" or otherwise:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornography_laws_by_region#Iceland
     
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    You quoted everything that did NOT directly reflect my opinion. That stuff in quotation marks came from the article cited in the OP. Reread the rest and there it is - What I am saying !!!!
     
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    I was more facetiously replying to the ideas in that article.
     
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    There are no valid reasons to outlaw them. Tasteful appeal is no basis for law one way or the other. It actually is a constitutional issue in that it falls under the right of privacy. It is no more acceptable or constitutional to ban such robots as it is to ban vibrators.

    The article you link to talks about limiting importation which proves how stupid the article is as more than one company is manufacturing them here in the US

    The claim made by self proclaimed " experts " is that such robots will increase sexual violence. This is a ludicrous concept already proven false. Porn and violent or sexualized video games have long since been proven to have no such effect on sexual violence. If anything the opposite. Sexual violence ( all criminal violence in general ) has decreased as porn and video games have grown in popularity.

    The only real opposition to these things is for two reasons.

    One feminists hate them because they know men are already abandoning traditional roles ( hiusband, father, LTRs ) in massive numbers and these things will likely only increase such numbers of men turning away from relationships with women. This is a threat because it destroys the only real leverage women have.

    Two the government opposes it for same basic reason but in a different way. The more men turn away from marriage and fatherhood the worse the economy gets. The consumer based economy relies on marriage because men make more money but women spend it. Single men consume very little compared to women but that changes with marriage and kids. With more men turning away from women who control men's money the economy slows.

    Second wave feminists fought for women's right to pursue sexual satisfaction as they see fit such as sex outside of marriage , multiple partners and especially self gratification . This issue is no different for men. Regardless of how sleazy many think it may be men have the right to this sort of thing as it harms no one in any way shape or form.

    The hope among feminists and government regulatords is to stop this before it catches on huge. The demand is already there and growing but they need to stop it before it gets viral. When it does get huge men may well do what they have never done before and fight for the right to their own sexual gratification. When feminists and religious zealots fight to stop porn their main opponents are porn producers. Men in general are silent about it. When men catch on in large numbers to the advantages of robots AND when they realize it is no different than a womans right to use a dildo then they might well stand up and demand their own right to fap with a robot as they have never done before.
     

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