HEALTH AND SCIENCE FDA panel recommends Pfizer’s Covid booster doses for people 65 and older after r

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    Chrizton Well-Known Member

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    The only person I know who has had a third shot said it made him sicker than the other two. He got the pfizer ones all 3 times. His doctor insisted he take it because his Humira injections suppress his immune system.
     
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    Again, sources?
     
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    Basic scientific sources. Duh.
     
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    Yeap
    Covid Raging people dying with a vaccine
    Afghanstan people dying and American's stranded but hey we gone.
    Border Crisis and Covid pouring in
    Inflation raging
    Unemployment not dropping per even Biden's projections

    Yeap great days with Biden, I'm trying to figure out one thing this guy has gotten right and I'm being serious.
     
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    The problem with the Israeli study is that the data set is from January to February 2021, and it included mostly hospital workers that were likely to have been infected with Covid-19 before receiving the vaccinations. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

    The problem with this statistical data is that natural immunity is up to 13 times more effective than vaccines. The same problem exists within the UK study. The panelist used more recent data from Israel and the UK in coming to a decision about allowing vaccinations for children and adults under the age of 65. In both the UK and Israel statistics, the number of vaccinated patients that died from Covid-19 was under-reported due to poor testing, collecting and recording of data for vaccinated patients. Similar issues existed with testing standards among vaccinated and unvaccinated patients to confirm cases. Facilities were using CT Counts of 28 for vaccinated and +35 for Un-vaccinated patients, despite the fact that your are 32 times more likely to test positive using the later CT count. This was a problem that was particularly relevant early-on in 2021.
    https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/15/30k...days-of-having-a-covid-19-vaccine-in-england/

    The same policies are used in the United States.
    file:///Users/newguest/Downloads/cdc_105217_DS1.pdf

    This was the problem these panelists had with the research, and the rationale they used for disagreeing with the Israeli policy expert that presented arguments to the panel. The data was telling a different story than the research conclusions that looked at January and February data, which was during the height of the pandemic.

    Israel is currently experiencing its worst wave of the pandemic despite vaccinations, and the UK is also experiencing a significant wave despite being a couple months away from their seasonal peak. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/
     
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    Good. I trust their expertise. Not sure what politics has to do with it. Is Meissner a conservative? I'm sure it's much more than conservatives who have concerns about the booster.
     
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    An undersampled increase of 10% doesn't necessarily mean anything. Until the data is generated, we don't know.

    All I could find is this.

    In People with Cancer, Responses to COVID-19 Vaccines Vary - National Cancer Institute

    Oh...and this little gem.

    Antivaxxers misrepresent a study to falsely claim that COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer | Science-Based Medicine (sciencebasedmedicine.org)

    Ha!
     
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