Durham Grand Jury Indicts Clinton-Linked Attorney Involved in Russia Probe

that you are OK politicizing the DOJ and intelligence agencies and phony documents fed to them and the MSM to win elections and destroy your political opposition.

Did I misinterpret, you are NOT ok with the politicizing the DOJ and intelligence agencies and phony documents fed to them and the MSM to win elections and destroy your political opposition but predicting there will be no further indictments? Read the indictment are you OK with what the Clinton campaign, DNC, their lawyers, the FBI, the intelligence agencies, the MSM conspired to do and then did?

Why do you believe there will be no further indictment?

 

No it’s not against the law to know russians lol
When a foreign power is helping one party, and that party has lots of unexplained Russian connections, it would be criminal to not investigate

 

So why bring it up? NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION. This indictment even shows the unbelievable effort and lengths that the Clinton campaign, the DNC, this lawyer, the tech-1 guy and his two companies and university went, so of highly questionable legalities, to find something. And the DIDN'T. Yet you still try to claim it as fact. Mueller after two years could not find any. Yet you still try to claim it as fact. And yes the Clinton campaign has a lot to explain about the Steele dossier and Russian dirt they tried to present as fact and how they were using the intel agencies and FBI, of which high officials were complicit, to deny Trump the election and then after he won sabotage his Presidency.

What could well be the worst, at the highest level across multiple agencies political scandal in the history of this country. It's a top 5 at the least.

 

I really think there should be a 2-Russian limit.... A bar absolutely nobody in the T**** campaign would have met, except maybe Hope Hicks...

Here's a decent summary of this indictment

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/durha...arre-coda-doj-s-russia-investigation-n1279490

Sounds like Baker, as the sole witness to the alleged statement, told Congress he didn't recall what Sussman said on the topic of a client AND that it wouldn't have mattered to how the FBI handled it if he did...

Strong case!

 

I explained why I brought it up.
Russia was helping them while the campaign mgr was giving campaign data to a russian agent. It’d be criminal to not investigate.
Real scandals send high level people to prison, like Iran contra or watergate. Not some lawyer who wasn’t specific enough on his billing lol

 

Why do you keep posting as fact false narratives. NO ONE found ANY Russian collusion.
Yea I know you claim the Durham investigation is all over, the billing only proves he was being paid by the Clinton campaign and he is not a idiot lawyer who does not know who he represents when he represents them. Lawyers are VERY attuned to whom and what they are billing. But of course Hillary has a history this, remember the Madison Guaranty billing records she hid for the OIC while he buddy Vince Foster was trying to clean them, the records that were hidden away in her WH bedroom? The illegal acts that drove Vince Foster, the Legal Counsel to the President who was doing personal legal work for the Clintons which was against the law, to commit suicide? That sent Webb Hubbell to prison where he was caught on the prison phone telling he wife he just had to roll over one more time for the Clintons then they'd be taken care of. Yeah Hillary knows all about scheming with the billing records to hide the underlying crimes.

 

Lol nobody said anything about collusion.
Sounds like you’ve proven the clintons are bad at hiring lawyers. Way to go.

 

It is a real problem that those who should be shining a light on the corruption are themselves deeply implicated in it.

Indictment of Clinton's Lawyer Is an Indictment of Media

Glenn Greenwald, Substack

". . . . The lie that Sussman allegedly told the FBI occurred in the context of his mid-2016 attempt to spread a completely fictitious story: that there was a "secret server” discovered by unnamed internet experts that allowed the Trump organization to communicate with Russia-based Alfa Bank. In the context of the 2016 election, in which the Clinton campaign had elevated Trump's alleged ties to the Kremlin to center stage, this secret communication channel was peddled by Sussman — both to the FBI and to Clinton-friendly journalists — as smoking-gun proof of nefarious activities between Trump and the Russians. Less than two months prior to the 2016 election, Sussman secured a meeting at the FBI's headquarters with the Bureau's top lawyer, James Baker, and provided him data which he claimed proved this communication channel.

It was in the course of trying to lure the FBI into investigating this scam conspiracy theory when Sussman allegedly lied to Baker, by concealing the fact — outright denying — that he was peddling the story in his role as lawyer for the Hillary Clinton campaign as well as a lawyer for a "tech executive” hoping to be appointed as the top cybersecurity official in the soon-to-be-inaugurated Clinton administration. . . .

Despite all this, this fraud — one of so many that formed the Russiagate scandal — played a significant role in shaping media coverage of the 2016 election. Spurred on by Hillary Clinton herself, the liberal sector of the corporate media used this fake claim to bolster their narrative that Trump and the Russians were secretly in cahoots. And the story of how they spread this disinformation involves not just the potential criminality outlined in this indictment of Hillary's lawyer but, even more seriously, a rotted and deeply corrupted media. . . . "

 

This desperate attempt to construct a weak strawman is quite telling. Go back and reread the post that triggered this need. Your opinion is just that an opinion. My opinion is:
Durham is done; the appointment was simple political theater and cover. Good luck with the strawman though. BTW, Eric Trump is squealing about subpoena after subpoena being launched on his family of grifters. Guess what, I'd say there is more there than 2 1/2 years of the Durham "investigation" .

 

Here's another anti-Durham case article (are there any pro-Durham case articles??), although this one recaps all the horrible efforts of Barr as well....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-barr-still-making-mockery-085934377.html

They keep saying Garland should have put the kibosh on this indictment, but why should he? Nothing points out the nothingness of the so-called Durham investigation like indictments such as this... If he'd have stomped on this, the right would have gone more batshit than they already are.

It's possible there was a technical non-material violation of the law here, but like Clinesmith, this only shows what a zero that entire enterprise was....

But Durham got a lot of free travel out of it, including a nice trip to Italy for....... some reason??

 

Please see the links at #159 and #183.

 

It will be interesting to follow this to its conclusion.
Durham Cracks the Russia Case - WSJ
https://www.wsj.com › Opinion › Review & Outlook

2 days ago — John Durham on Thursday indicted a Clinton campaign lawyer from 2016 for lying to the FBI, but this is no ho-hum case of deception.

 

you really got them this time!

 

Thanks... doesn't change a thing, but that allowed me to use both my scrolling AND paging skills..

 

I'm not trying to get anyone. I actually have no dog in this fight, but I'm amused by the abundance of self-righteousness and the absence of self-awareness on display.

 

We shall see.

 

It seems to me thinking this will amount to anything is a amusing lack of paying attention to the last 30 years in this country.

 

Some of the last 30 years were pretty good, some excellent, in fact. Some were not, but that's beside the point. Watergate was dismissed as a "third rate burglary" and we know how that turned out.

 

The last 30 years have been great for me, but that is not the topic of the thread.

That was the last time we really held a leader accountable and by today's standards it was just a third rate burglary.

I watch the things today's leaders get away with and think we own Nixon an apology

 

So what?

 

so what is that nothing will come of this based upon the last 30 years.

Do try and keep up

 

We shall see.

 

I agree with the first part of your last sentence, but at NO POINT do "we" owe Nixon an apology.... The only thing that makes Nixon appear better by today's standards is that he had the required shame and self awareness to know he had to go....

 

I have read post and you are quite clear you are fine with the egregious acts of the Clinton Campaign, the DNC, these lawyers working for them, the tech firms which used their access to non-public government information about a private citizen to try and find dirt on him and then when they could not, a fact you refuse to acknowledge, made stuff up and took it to the FBI to get an investigation started so then they could leak it to the press to report to try and destroy the Trump campaign and when that fail they tried to sabotage his presidency, another fact you refuse to acknowledge.

That IS OK politicizing the DOJ and intelligence agencies and phony documents fed to them and the MSM to win elections and destroy your political opposition.

Yes you have made your postulation known.........in spite of what the indictment outlines as the plot I described above..............let's see.

 

Still need that strawman construct to keep bumping the thread with the final say, good enough for me but, next time put more thought in the strawman attempt.