1952- 2022 - 70 years

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bankers own the corporations that own the medias which fill people's heads up with lies. They have also been bankrupting and buying up small businesses for years. With Covid they were in their heyday buying up bankrupt businesses so they could proceed with their Great Reset - which is just another name for George Soros' messianic dream of a liberal one world government under corporate control.

    Fortunately people wised up and its failing, as George Soros himself admitted. Interestingly, China is calling him a 'Global Terrorist' and a 'Son of Satan', for all the damage he's done to nations with his NGO's.

    As for the Republican Party, they have always supported small businesses and individual enterprises. It's the Democrats that have taxed them and regulated them so that it's difficult for them to grow and produce jobs. The Democrats also support and back the large corporations, otherwise they wouldn't be getting so much support from the news medias.

    As for President Reagan, he took us out of the recession of the 70's and gave our country the greatest prosperity it ever had. It lasted until 2008 when Obama decided to save the banks rather than the American people.

    Newt Gingrich the most brilliant man in Washington, wanted schools years ago to start teaching students trades as well as an education, so they wouldn't be burdened with college loans.


    These are just a few facts because I really don't know if you're not aware of these things, or whether you're just another propagandist.
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!

    GO ahead and try are REMOVE women's RIGHT to VOTE!

    They are LARGEST voting bloc in the NATION.

    And YOU want to DEPRIVE them of their Constitutional RIGHTS!

    That is going to end very BADLY for those who attempt it just as it going to end badly for those trying to take away women's RIGHT to bodily autonomy.

    Our nation STARTED as a BEACON of LIBERAL THOUGHT and has consistently REJECTED all attempts to drag it UNDER the malign influence of any and all THEIST dogmas.

    We freed the slaves.
    We ensured women's right to vote.
    We upheld minority's right to vote.
    We upheld the right of gays to marry the consenting adult of their choice.

    The TREND towards a more ENLIGHTENED society was baked in from the outset and no amount of foot stomping naysaying by theists is going to REVERSE that direction.
     
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    Denial of FACT based REALITY does not alter it one iota.
     
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    Cultural marxists don't care who votes... they will be counting those votes to put whomever they want in power.

    In America, nobody votes for who they want. They are given a "choice" between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum... and then those counting the votes put whomever they want in power.

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The foundation of this nation was never liberal and always Christian, and until the 1960's we were known for our Puritanism. Of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, nearly half (24) held seminary or Bible school degrees.

    The reason for the separation of State and Faith, was because each colony had its own Church and they were fearful the Federal government would establish a national Church. Yet religious services were always held on Sunday in the Rotunda of the Capital Building.

    Here are some quotes:


    https://www.learnreligions.com/christian-quotes-of-the-founding-fathers-700789
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    George Washington
    1st U.S. President


    "While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
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    John Adams
    2nd U.S. President and Signer of the Declaration of Independence


    "Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."
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    Thomas Jefferson
    3rd U.S. President, Drafter and Signer of the Declaration of Independence


    "God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever..."

    "I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ."
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    John Hancock
    1st Signer of the Declaration of Independence

    "Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
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    Benjamin Franklin
    Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Unites States Constitution


    "Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.
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    Samuel Adams

    Signer of the Declaration of Independence and Father of the American Revolution

    "And as it is our duty to extend our wishes to the happiness of the great family of man, I conceive that we cannot better express ourselves than by humbly supplicating the Supreme Ruler of the world that the rod of tyrants may be broken to pieces, and the oppressed made free again; that wars may cease in all the earth, and that the confusions that are and have been among nations may be overruled by promoting and speedily bringing on that holy and happy period when the kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ may be everywhere established, and all people everywhere willingly bow to the sceptre of Him who is Prince of Peace."
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    John Quincy Adams

    6th U.S. President

    "The hope of a Christian is inseparable from his faith. Whoever believes in the divine inspiration of the Holy Scriptures must hope that the religion of Jesus shall prevail throughout the earth. Never since the foundation of the world have the prospects of mankind been more encouraging to that hope than they appear to be at the present time. And may the associated distribution of the Bible proceed and prosper till the Lord shall have made 'bare His holy arm in the eyes of all the nations, and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God'
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the only miracle that was seen throughout the world. A Greek American who is considered one of the top specialists in the world examined all the X-rays and papers together with others, and they couldn't figure out how she could get up and walk.

     
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    It's arrogant to assume that if humans fail to understand how something happened, then it must have been some special favor from a supernatural power rather than what it most obviously is -- humans failing to understand how something happened. As great as modern science is, it doesn't have everything figured out. If it did, we'd have a cure for cancer and a lot of other things that are as yet incurable.
     
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    Puritanism is the WRONG word to choose, unless you want to alienate the South and much of the rest of the country.

    The "Puritan" devil Cromwell [temporarily] destroyed the English monarchy. At the time, Puritans were the radical revolutionaries... as were their New England spawn.

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    The Christian belief is that it's arrogant for people to assume that they can achieve everything through their own resources, and not realize their limitations. This is why humility is a perquisite in Christianity. This doesn't mean though that doctors are not doing God's work and that science is not a gift from God. But a greater power should be recognized and accepted.
     
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    To the Europeans we were considered 'Puritanical' because of our morals and ethics. Well we changed that now didn't we?:frustrated:
     
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    All of that is superfluous and superstitious at best. Belief in one god or another will have no impact on science, apart from possibly getting in the way of it, depending on the circumstances.

    Science is a wholly human endeavor, not a "gift" from anything unless you want to anthropomorphize evolution and thank it for giving us our big, complex brains.
     
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    Strict morality is the modern definition of Puritanism.

    But hundreds of years ago, Cromwell and his Puritan demons were radical revolutionaries.

    Southern Confederates [who were morally strict Christians] called Yankees "Puritan demons" because of Yankee Puritan roots. Most Southerners [many of our founding fathers were Southerners] identified with the Royalist Cavaliers [later called Jacobites.] To understand that one must be familiar with the English civil wars. Some historians think the US civil war was a continuation of the English civil wars between Puritans [also called Roundheads and Parliamentarians] and Royalist Cavaliers. Many Cavaliers settled in the American South [including Scot Cavaliers/Jacobites.]

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    Regurgitation of Extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION fails to address the CONTENT of what you QUOTED.

    What is going to HAPPEN when you attempt to DEPRIVE women of their VOTING rights?
     
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    The Founding Fathers ALL met the DEFINITION of the term.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/liberal

    FACTS matter!
     
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    The names are familiar, but I don't know much about English history and the religious wars going on. I did assume the South was settled predominantly by Scots, not only because names like Davis are common, but because the Confederate flag like the Scottish flag used the Cross of Saint Andrew.

    When the Russians of the Donbass region used a similar flag, since the Patriarchate of Constantinople has Saint Andrew in the same way Rome has Saint Peter, some people thought they were copying the Confederate flag.


    There was definitely a cultural difference between the North and South, and someone did write a book that the Civil War was a war between the Celts and English. Frankly I believe that all differences between people are cultural, so he's probably right.
     
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    And yet the so called 'liberal' Democrats today are advocates of strong government and clamping down on dissent if it doesn't suit their purpose, as well as having a disregard for individual rights. So maybe they shouldn't call themselves liberals, and start calling themselves the Democrat Party of Totalitarianism.


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    I dost believe that to be free
    we shouldn't give our guns to thee.
    And thus protect our house and home
    from all of those, who like to roam,

    like animals so angrily,
    and tellest us so blatantly,
    that we should never dare to stray,
    for only they should have a say.

    Nor should we do as we so please,
    while forcing us upon our knees,
    to worship gods of lust and greed.
    And things that we can never heed.

    Now these are things we did not choose.
    And freedoms something we can't lose.
    To liberal laws and swords so cruel
    and brandished 'bout by those who rule
    - Jeannette

     
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    I had hoped Novorossiya had intentionally copied my forefathers' Confederate flag :)

    Southern states that left the USA formed their own separate nation, the CSA. So ironically, the Confederate flag also symbolizes the first nation the USA totally destroyed. The CSA was the first in a long line of other nations the USA would overtly and/or covertly destroy. Tsarist Russia was one of them! The US government under Roosevelt, Taft and Wilson overtly and covertly fostered and supported anti-monarchy revolutionaries who deposed and imprisoned Tsar Nicholas II [who was later brutally murdered with his entire family by anti-monarchy marxist revolutionaries.]

    The English civil wars involved the same theme... the Royalist Cavaliers supported their king... but the puritan devil Cromwell and his puritan parliamentarians destroyed the monarchy when they beheaded King Charles I [King of England and Scotland.] And to make matters even worse... while Cromwell ruled, he allowed snakes back into England that previous English kings had exiled.

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    Do the ones who deny the Southerners the right to wave their flag realize they are denying the Cross of Saint Andrew? Besides that, no one has the right to tell others not to have pride in their ancestry - and for what reason? Because of slavery as if everyone's ancestors weren't at one time slave owners and slaves - depending on how far back one goes.

    As for our government being against the Tsar, it was believed at that time that democracies do not start wars, only absolute monarchs do, so they were against the Tsar, the Kaisar and the others. We proved them wrong now didn't we? As for the stance of the Russian Church on the revolution, they believe that the priests were to blame for what happened, since they failed the people and it fell because of their sins.

    What I do know is that the nobility in Russia was heavily into the occult. Necromancy was popular among the nobility in Europe, and 2 Montenegrin princesses who had married Grand Dukes brought it into Russia. Felix Yussapov in his biography had pointed to one of their homes and said: "Do you see that house? It contains all the evil in the world".

    As for the Bolsheviks, they were criminals. Lenin was totally evil. Someone asked him why didn't he associate with intellectuals instead of criminals, and he said; "because the criminals are the ones who will do my work." Before the Bolshevik takeover, there were terrorists and suicide bombers and from what I read the deaths of officials and dignitaries came to about 500 a year. That would be the equivalent of 2000 Governors, Senators, police chiefs, mayors etc. being killed each year in our country.

    I personally think the Tsar made 2 mistakes, one was having a free press since some newspapers became anti Tsarina gossip sheets, and the other was holding on to Poland since it gave the Bolsheviks and others free entrance into Russia.

     
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    I recall the architect who built the twin towers tempting fate by saying: It shows what man is able to achieve. That made me think of the architect of the Titanic bragging that even God wouldn't be able to sink it. They didn't turn out too well, did they?

    Nicola Tesla in contrast said, we're influenced by outside forces - and he didn't mean aliens from other planets.


    But look, to each his own.
     
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    The FLAILING deflection above does NOT address the FACT that the Founding Fathers were LIBERALS.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    What's sad is the misusing of words for political expediency, so that coups now are called democracy in action, elected leaders are called dictators, totalitarianism is called liberalism, and it goes on and on.

    The confusion stems from our God-less world, with its lack of moral concepts and boundaries.



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    Welcome to our Orwellian world guys.
     
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    IRONIC coming from those that would IMPOSE a THEIST DICTATORSHIP on our nation!
     
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    What theist dictatorship? For heaven's sake, wasn't it our devout Founding Fathers that gave us the freedoms we enjoyed, and isn't it the 'liberals' who are turning our country and every nation we touch into a totalitarian regime?


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    They say I can't fool everyone,
    although it has been on mind.
    I only pray that when I do,
    it won't be returned in kind -Jeannette
     
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    Texas and Florida are DEPRIVING women of their reproductive RIGHTS based upon THEIST beliefs and ALL of the RED states are SUPPRESSING the RIGHTS of MINORITIES to exercise the RIGHT to VOTE.

    So it is NOT liberals who are taking away "freedoms".

    FACTS matter!
     
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