Big Myth About Donald Trump, GOP Leaders Is Busted In Blistering New Ad

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  1. spiritgide

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    So you are saying that the right keeps calling fools fools?

    Sounds right to me.

    I voted for Obama- once. My mistake; I apologize. I would have voted for Harry Truman too if I'd been old enough back then.
    So I have nothing against democrats- it's stupidity and incompetence in politics that offend me.
     
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    Please, government, find a way to outlaw political advertising. It would be a relief to see it go away. Let the politicians accept interviews and debates. Those are far more effective for communicating political messages than partisan advertising.
     
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    Not saying that, I'm merely commenting on your choice of blame.. You do realize that no county was immune to this pandemic, I'd hope! And you do realize that you and others clearly fail to even mention China and their roll in this world wide pandemic! Here is the realty if you can work around the Trump hate long enough to see clearly! Once the Chineses allowed transcontinental flight to go on knowing that this virus was airborne and spreading "Via Taiwan email" how was any country including the U.S. even going to attempt to stop the spread? It would have literally taken a miracle once airport became transmission hubs PLANET WIDE..

    Look I know you and others hate Trump, but to continue to ignore facts is ridiculous and doesn't make a person look smarter, informed or remotely realistic! It does however lend truth that there must be some odd thing in some people to throw logic to the wind, extend loyalty to a country that contaminated a planet killing over two million people "Still counting" and continually point a finger at one person the WRONG PERSON!
     
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    The left hangs their hats on their own lies, and expect the rest of us to believe and trust them. They claim that President Trump called the COVID-19 virus a hoax. That lie has been debunked numerous times, but that does not matter. They keep peddling the lie to their mindless sheeple. They claim that President Trump was not following the science, but that just ignores the fact that the science has been changing from day one. It has also been manipulated by those that are supposed to be the purveyors of that science. Such as Fauci, CDC and WHO claiming that masks were only necessary for those that are sick or treating the sick. How many people got sick based on that lie? Or how about he lie that there was no data on human to human transfer? The first case of COVID-19 in the US was a woman that had returned to the US from Wuhan China. The second case was her husband who had not made the trip with her. So, if she had not transferred the virus to him, how did he catch it? For that matter, if there is no human to human transfer then why does the sick or those caring for the sick need masks? The fact is that they knew early on that the virus could be transferred human to human, but they hid the fact to keep down panic and runs on masks. They wanted to ensure that masks were available for doctors, nurses and first responders. Nobel, but it aided in the spread of the virus. On top of all the lies, is the fact that the DNC went out of their way to create doubt about any vaccine created under a Trump Presidency. But now people are supposed to trust them when they say the vaccine is safe, and keep them from getting sick.

    Yet, the facts keep getting in the way of the narrative. There are people getting sick and dying that have been fully vaccinated. They blame this on the Delta strain, but that leaves the question as to how effective the vaccine is to that variant. As long as fully vaccinated healthy people are dying of the virus, no matter the strain, then it is natural to question the effectiveness of the vaccine. These same liberals claim that the states that follow President Trump's lead are the cause of the rise in cases. That does not actually match the facts. There are only 13 states that reinstated Mask Mandates, of which only seven went back to all masks all the time. Six went to mask requirements in certain situations, and 37 states have allowed their mask mandates to expire. So, obviously they are all followers of President Trump's opinion on the situation. Further, when you look at who have the highest number of cases recently, you do not see only Trump supporting Governor states at the top. The highest state is Texas. Now, you could point to Governor Abbott's statements on the subject, but that does not hold water. The real mitigating factor is the release of untested/vaccinated illegals into the country. If the Biden Administration was seriously concerned in stopping the spread of the virus, they would send the illegals back where they came from. Since they all entered the country through Mexico, that is where they need to be returned. Mexico, can then decide to keep them, or send them further south. Letting more potentially infected cases into the US is not a good way to stop the spread of the virus.

    The real cult are the ones that support Biden and his open border policy.
     
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    That's because every Dem president is a clone that does the same stupid ass stuff when in office.. Only difference this time is you/leftist/democrats don't have a President! You have elected to allow every far left nut job loon holding a title to manipulate a sad essentially mentally retarded old person to take the heat and blame for all their crazy idea's..

    There's a reason why all his puppet masters were never elected President, and now the leftist voters have opened Pandora's box and they are all taking turns being President :)
     
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    Which STILL does not negate trumps incompetence in dealing with it when it came here no matter how much you want it to.
     
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    lol, that all you got?
     
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    personal attacks, sad, that all you got left?
     
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    In your brief review of my words, you seem to have ignored the obvious facts.
    I can only assume you may have something impairing that ability, because we know you are intelligent.
     
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    Loyalty noted. Dislike for Trump, avoiding logic and logical discussion is your soul priority, I am deeply sorry if that's the best of you :(
     
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    Yet here we are all being forced by the Biden government to take the Trump Vaccine or suffer the consequences.
     
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    He may do better or worse the second time but I can't see him winning. I would prefer Candace Owens or maybe Ron Desantis.
     
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    sad people have to resort to personal attacks when they have nothing else
     
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    Yes, I can't see him winning either. I'd consider voting for a Republican especially if running against Kamala Harris (I don't think Joe Biden will seek a second term), but not Ron DeSantis, oh God, no! His job regarding the pandemic has been terrible. But I'd gladly vote for someone like Senator Ben Sasse or Maryland Governor Larry Hogan. That is, more moderate Republicans. I'm a centrist and I like more moderate politicians. Both extremes, left or right, irritate me.
     
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    We all are here to debate and we all need to be friendly to each other. Nobody should use personal attacks on here. While I rarely agree with you I still respect your oppinion.
     
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    Not if you live in New ,ealsnd or Australia.
     
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    The moderate Republicans gave us Bush, McCain and Romney. They would take the party back to just mostly white voters and the same b's. The GOP has had decades to "Make America Great Again" and has failed. I don't remember Ronald Reagan but I'm not a fan of the old party even if it's moderates.

    I'm no fan of Ron Desantis but at least he is against vaccine mandates and for that alone I would consider voting for him. I considered Tulsi but in the end she would be more liberal then conservative. I'm finding myself following Candace less because she is all about her talk show but I still think she would make a good candidate as she is intelligent and I agree with her on most things. I am no fan of Mike Liddell and I won't vote for him. Kristen and Nikki I'm not fans at the moment.

    Ben Sasse criticized Trump so I'm not surprised you like him. He would never get the nomination.

    Larry Hogan is the govenor of Marryland and a so called Republican. He has no plans to end abortion, supports same sex marriage, does not like the NRA and criticizes Trump. He even considered running against Trump for POTUS.

    Do you like anyone that does not hate Trump?
     
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    I profoundly dislike Trump. People who support Trump are disqualified in my consideration and won't deserve my vote.

    Yes, I'd vote for Ben Sasse or Larry Hogan not only because I like what they say, but also because they are some of the few Republicans who had the guts to confront that evil pathological narcissist con artist called Donald Trump.

    Yes, the primaries will NEVER select the best candidates... and that's true for both parties. In 2016 we had the two worst possible candidates. In 2020, same thing. In 2016 I could have voted for someone like John Kasich. But of course the primaries failed to nominate him. The primaries these days only nominate the bad people who cater to the extremists among the parties.

    Most likely I'll just vote third party in 2024.

    I'm not a big fan of Bush but Romney and McCain are much more honorable people than Trump. I'd have gladly voted for them against Trump.

    Ron DeSantis and vaccine mandates: no, he isn't against vaccine mandates. Florida has numerous vaccine mandates he never touched. He is just an opportunist trying to score some votes given how Covid-19 got politicized.

    Why does he think he needs to curb PRIVATE businesses like cruise lines from requiring proof of vaccination from their customers? That's big government stomping on the rights of private businesses, and you support that???

    Same thing about local school districts choosing to implement a mask mandate. Big government from the governor's mansion should never have interfered with what these local officials thought to be most appropriate for their local districts.

    Meanwhile Florida posted one of the nation's worst death tallies. Great job, DeSantis, you moron!

    I'm not for vaccine mandates either (I prefer a gentle educational campaign) but just being against mandates won't automatically earn my vote. I'd never vote for that opportunistic moron called DeSantis.
     
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    Okay let's look at reality. Beyond the numbers. When the pandemic began the Chinese lied to us about the nature of the threat repeatedly. We had no treatments, no vaccine no anything. The majority of the dead under Trump came while the medical practitioners were finding treatments for the disease. This was and is a given with any new disease that crops up no matter what you do. Blaming Trump for this is like blaming dogs for the existen e of fleas.
     
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    The left should know, that describes their total plan over the last 5 years. Ask president Trump- they were insulting him and planning an impeachment before he was even elected. The same people now see Joe Biden wreaking total havoc with our economy, our laws and our freedom, and they say nothing..... So it's pretty obvious that they really don't understand anything when they cry "personal attacks".

    Be respectable; get respected. It's not that hard. IF those who call you our for something accurately.... Its NOT an attack; it's an observation of fact.
     
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    totally agree, and thank you
     
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    Attacking each other here is not the same as being critical of our President

    remember Republicans saying their top goal was to make the first black President a one-term President

    they claimed the tea party was about debt, then they disappeared when Trump became President and raised the debt more than any other President in history had in 4 years

    as far as your attack on me, that was not fact
     
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    yes, does the right now support "my body, my choice"

    are they pro-choice yet?
     
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    I see other posters have the same problem with you.
    Go figure
     

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