Demographic change in vaccinated people, and reasons to drop hesitancy

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  1. kreo

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    certainty not useful as a preventative measure for whole population.
    Sure, whoever wants to get more protection go ahead and get shot.
     
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    It's pretty amazing when people are so tech challenged they can't even find a link to the cdc.
     
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    There isn't a link to anywhere on the CDC website that says the vaccine caused 8,000 deaths.
     
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    Hasn't a similar argument been made about the number of Covid deaths?
     
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    Interesting how a post i made quoting and documenting the errors to a certain poster go deleted but no message from the moderation staff on why or any sort of notice it was deleted at all....
     
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    How many deaths do YOU think the vaccine caused?
     
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    The CDC reports 3 deaths, caused by blood clotting, due to the J&J vaccine.

    It reports 892 cases of myocarditis or pericarditis, mostly in young men, after mRNA vaccines. No deaths were reported.
     
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    I don’t know. No one I know has had any significant negative issues related to the vaccine, so I’m assuming it’s not enough to be concerned with. I have yet to see any evidence that suggests I should be concerned with it.

    I know at least a dozen people who were hospitalized with covid and a few of them died. That’s more than enough to give me reason to be concerned about covid.

    Anti vaxxers have become concern trolls.
     
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    Exactly. There's been a handful of deaths in America caused by the vaccines... and more than 700,000 deaths caused by the virus.
     
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    LOL. So, what happened to the other 8000? What did they die from? Oh yeah, I forgot, "they could have died from anything".
     
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    The things that happened to them weren't vaccine related.

    Why is this so tough for you to grasp?
     
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    So, over 8000 people have died shortly after vaccination and you admit you don't actually know what they died of, you just know that no one you knew died or had reactions. This is my point, over 8000 deaths have been reported shortly after vaccination and no one seems to know what they died of and no one seems to be even bothering to find out. The left just say that they could have died from anything and yet after months and months no one seems to be able to tell us why any of these people died.

    By the way, I don't know anyone who died but I do know a small handful who had very bad reactions to the vaccines. One of them got the J&J vaccine and became almost completely paralyzed, having to learn how to walk all over again and she still isn't back to normal. I believe she got Guillain-Barre syndrome but I never heard the exact diagnosis. I just want the left to be honest about the stats and not cover up the bad to further their vaccination drive so, until the left can tell us what happened to these people then I don't accept, "Well they could have died from anything".
     
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    I realize that it isn’t statistically relevant that 8,000 people died shortly after the vaccine, given the number of people who die every day and the number of vaccinated in the population. I suspect that 8,000 represents an under reporting and there have been many more than that die in the months after vaccination.

    You seem convinced that this is a meaningful statistic, but have offered no evidence to support that conviction.
     
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    No, if it's mandated to all citizens, have you been vaccinated due to the mandate? Me either.

    There's no law in effect to force all citizens to get the vaccine. All you posted about was a press conference where Biden is trying to do that. But it is NOT in EFFECT.
    And very likely won't be.
     
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    Wow, you are making up more stuff
     
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    You might want to prove how you were coerced or anyone coerced into a vaccine because of the fed gov't mandate. For those that aren't a employee or contractor to the fed gov't
     
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    I have no fellow lefties. I am an independent thinker.
     
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    Yes, like I said, more than 8,000 people die every day in the United States (2018 numbers, before the pandemic).
    So, yes, this number of VAERS report is not extraordinary at all, and it's a silly way to gauge it because there is nothing that indicates that these people died FROM the vaccine.
     
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    The largest health care provider in the state of New York fired 1,400 employees who refuse the vaccine (2% of their workforce), and they are now advertising that their workforce is 100% vaccinated.

    https://www.mdedge.com/familymedicine/article/247098/coronavirus-updates/new-yorks-largest-health-care-provider-fires-1400?utm_medium=email&sso=true&utm_content=New York’s largest HCP fires 1,400 unvaccinated employees&uac=350649AJ&utm_source=NewsMDedgeeNL100621F&ecd=wnl_eveningnews_211006_mdedge_8pm
     
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    Just because left-wing media hasn’t told you what to think doesn’t mean other facts don’t exist.
     
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    Of course they do exist. You just don't have any. You just believe RW lies.
     
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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    You never provide any evidence to support your claims. You are the one making the claim that the vaccine is killing people, but you provide 0 evidence.

    Your feelings don't matter.
     
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