Walgreens closing 5 San Francisco stores due to ‘organized retail crime’

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well what do you expect when local officials are more concerned with protecting criminals that the law abiding citizens and businesses. The local stores reporting crime in their stores are 5x the typical store. $1000 a day. I noted one news report where the criminals actually had a calculator adding up what they wee stealing so as notntobgo over the number that will basically be ignored. And now the city officials whine about the hardship it will cause.

    "Walgreens will close five more San Francisco stores, a company spokesperson confirmed Tuesday, citing ongoing organized retail crime as the reason.....

    ...“Organized retail crime continues to be a challenge facing retailers across San Francisco, and we are not immune to that,” said Walgreens spokesperson Phil Caruso. “Retail theft across our San Francisco stores has continued to increase in the past few months to five times our chain average. During this time to help combat this issue, we increased our investments in security measures in stores across the city to 46 times our chain average in an effort to provide a safe environment.”
    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/amp/Walgreens-closing-5-Sf-stores-crime-shoplifting-16527801.php
     
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    The purpose of any business is to create wealth. This wealth is then distributed to those that risked capital in the company and the employees. When a business stops making wealth, for whatever the reason may be, then it really has no reason to exist. Closing is the only recourse. Organized theft and theft counter-measures are expensive, so they cut into the wealth creation. At some point, it does not make economic sense to run a business.

    When enough businesses decide that operating in San Francisco does not make financial sense, then you end up with urban wastelands, such as Detroit. San Francisco, and probably Portland and Seattle, have probably reached that point. Walgrens leaving will take their employees and customers who would shop at Walgrens out of the potential customer pool of nearby businesses, and this decrease in traffic makes it much more likely that these nearby businesses will also fail to create enough wealth to justify a store front.

    It is just basic economic fact.
     
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  4. Steve N

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    Closing Walgreens won't impact the theft as the criminals will just move on to other stores since the $950 limit is the same everywhere. I've already seen stories about this happening to Home Depot stores in Ca and how criminals are loading up carts full of electrical wire and just walking out the door. This is what happens when progressives believe the criminals are the real victims.

    BTW, do you know how they arrived at the $950 dollar amount? It's the value of the average car stolen by an illegal alien.
     
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    SOMETHING HAPPENED!!!

    BLAME DEMOCRATS!!!
     
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    nope

    Democrat voters are to blame for having elected the politicians. Are you aware that the Democrat party has been in control within SF as well as the state of CA?
     
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    Who decided to not prosecute any theft under $900? Dont you think such policies should be blamed?"California law dictates that theft of less than $950 in goods is penalized as a nonviolent misdemeanor."
     
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    Who could have ever saw this coming? What a surprise.
     
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    That's the truly sad thing. It actually was a surprise.
     
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    Not to those of rational minds.
     
  11. Steve N

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    No, theft happened which is causing stores to close. Who would you blame, you only have 2 choices.

    1. Democrat policies that enable criminals to not fear being arrested and prosecuted for their crimes because the left says they're the real victims

    Or

    2. You're not going to like this, but if you're not going to blame democrat policies then the only people left to blame are the criminals themselves. I've seen a lot of videos of these robberies taking place and those robberies are NEVER committed by white people, only minorities. Now I know what you're going to say, you're going to say racists are only posting the videos of blacks and browns being criminals, but those videos came from TV stations based out of San Francisco, so how can that be racist?

    So you can blame your policies on the crimes or you can blame the people who are committing those crimes, and in leftist lingo, anyone blaming the criminals is a racist, and that only leaves us with democrat policies.
     
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    Well, to anybody who actually has taken the time to research the $950 threshold (instead of just rambling without knowing the entire policy) there ARE Exceptions to that policy.

    Governor Newsom recently signed a new law in which shoplifting is a felony, even if it is below the $950 limit, if the theft is part of an organized ring with the intent to sell the stolen goods.

    https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/cal...-california-law-for-organized-thefts/2601409/
     
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    Or you could blame the thieves. Just saying.

    Alternatively, if you want to blame crimes on a party whose policies helped make those crimes possible - let’s do that. Blame school shootings on Republicans.
     
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    This type of behavior has long been common in other parts of the country. They are called "flash mobs".

    A group of younger people enter a retail store, wonder through and separate into different parts of the store, and then all of a sudden, as if there were a coordinated signal, they suddenly start grabbing everything in sight and then run together out of the store without paying. The store worker is so overwhelmed by the crowd of thieves that he cannot catch them all. If he tries to stop one, others will be able to grab more valuable items in the store as the store worker is distracted.

    A lot of times it's not obviously apparent that the different people entering the store are part of the same group, until they all start suddenly grabbing things really fast.
     
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    However, police agencies in California will have to contend with local prosecutors, who decide whether to charge an offender with a misdemeanor or felony, if at all. Progressive district attorneys such as those in San Francisco and Los Angeles have pledged to avoid stiff penalties, sentencing enhancements and incarceration for certain crimes.

    Claim i have not done any research and then post a source you did not read fully.

    I'm sorry Media Matters tactics do not work on me.
     
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    :bored:

    I read the whole thing, and interpreted it correctly.

    Sorry if your partisan narrative is disrupted by FACTS.
    I can't help you, if you won't accept facts.
    Carry on.:salute:
     
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    However, police agencies in California will have to contend with local prosecutors, who decide whether to charge an offender with a misdemeanor or felony, if at all. Progressive district attorneys such as those in San Francisco and Los Angeles have pledged to avoid stiff penalties, sentencing enhancements and incarceration for certain crimes.

    This is part of your article.. I can see why you dont want to discuss it and by omitting information you can scream FACT all day or use any emoticon you want. Doesnt change the fact that your own source validates what i said.. Now go screaming to the Mods to get this deleted...
     
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    When the Democrats are to blame then you should.

    I don't think there are Republicans running the city of San Francisco. When you don't present consequences for crimes you're not enforcing the law. When you don't enforce the law against theft you are telling people they do not have property rights.

    I don't think it was Donald Trump or George Bush that cause this problem in San Francisco I don't even think it was Arnold Schwarzenegger.
     
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    Surely you misspoke, comrade. The purpose of any business is to provide health/dental/vision coverage, paid time off, sick leave, paid maternity leave to birthing persons, re-education training, and to generate revenue for the state through its many many many taxes.

    It is just basic Marxist progressive fact.
     
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    I'm not surprised by this development... but the part I don't 'get' is the contention that this is a result of efforts by "organized" crime.

    I've never heard of "organized" criminals getting involved in this kind of admittedly fairly petty-theft. No, the real "organized" criminals play for much higher stakes than that kind of thing... and they buy rogue police officials, politicians, and various government bureaucrats to cover their asses from any problems with the law.

    Now, if this was all due to shoplifting and 'crowd-attacks' ("flash-rob"/"flash-mob") of the kind we've seen occur often in predominately Black neighborhoods throughout large American metro areas, that's one thing. And, in more recent years, liberal-infested insane asylums like San Francisco have become magnets for large indigent, homeless populations which are notorious for shoplifting on scales that are truly breathtaking. But would even that be enough for these businesses to just say, "Screw it! We're OUTTA HERE!" :lonely:
     
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    And we could blame the murders by illegals and drug overdose deaths on democrats. Those murders and deaths far exceed the number of school shootings.
     
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    Democrat voters committing crimes in Democrat cities and not being prosecuted by Democrat lawyers and Democrat politicians who hold on to power by Democrat voters.

    And that is how Democracy circles down the drain as it’s getting flushed.
     
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    The organized crime part is the thieves are all part of a group who steal stuff and put it on eBay. Others steal stuff they can easily sell to individuals locally, things like hair products. These groups don’t steal a loaf of bread to feed their families like AOC would have you believe, they’re organized criminals.
     
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    I suppose you can blame the birds for taking from the bird feeder dems put out. This is SF, so Democrats have full control with no interference from those pesky republicans. School shootings are a recent problem and seem to have increased along with the increased consumption of psychiatric drugs that list "suicidal thoughts or actions" as side effects. Which party do you blame for increased consumption of these pharm products?

    The good news is that no one has stolen any of the work boots!
     
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