Get used to it.

We know that the climate is changing. What we don't know is it mostly natural or man made? Either way, we aren't even talking of the best way to combat it, which is growing trees. That is something billions of us can help in the fight and it wouldn't cost us an arm and a leg to do it. Do we still have that raging fire in the Rain Forest? They say that the Rain Forest helps helps direct our weather paterns around the earth. Yet we set back and let it burn out of control. We allow one of the best ways to clean our air and fight global warming burn it's self up. The Biden administration isn't even talking of planting trees to fight global warming or cleaning our air.

"Growth of city trees can cut air pollution, says report - BBC ...

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Planting trees is a cost-effective way to tackle urban air pollution, which is a growing problem for many cities, a study suggests. ... Growth of city trees can cut air pollution, says report. By ...
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Global warming: Planting a trillion trees could be the "most ...

www.cbsnews.com/news/planting-a-trillion-trees...

If a tree falls in a forest, will replanting it help curb global warming? Scientists say planting a trillion trees globally could be the single most effective way to fight climate change.

 

How many coal power plants are there in the world today ...
www.iceagenow.info/how-many-coal-power-plants...

Sep 30, 2019 · Total 3,534. That’s 5,615 projected coal powered plants in just 8 countries. USA has 15 – building 0 more..Total 15. And Democrat politicians with their “green new deal” want to shut down those 15 plants in order to “save” the planet.

They wiil make those plants shut down which will raise people's electric bill. Raise taxes and pile on a bunch of regulations, just the thing that drove off over 300,000 manufacturing jobs under Obama. Unless you can get the rest of the world to go along with you, you'll do nothing to help pollution and global warming. They don't recognize borders. We are already switching to electric vehicles. GM is going total electric. We are still building solar on our homes and power plants. We are still building wind, solar, water and nuclear. But I don't hear the Left talk of planting trees and science says the best and cheapest way to combat pollution and global warming is planting a billion trees. They will ruin our economy and accomplish nothing?

stopthesethings.com › 2020/08/05 › coal-rush-chinaCoal Rush: China, Japan & India Back Coal-Fired Future With ...

Aug 05, 2020 · Coal Rush: China, Japan & India Back Coal-Fired Future With Hundreds of New Plants. Reports of the ‘death’ of coal have been greatly exaggerated, with the economic

 

False. The science shows it is the result of burning carbon based fuels.

 

Then before closing down the few we have here and costing thousands more in electric bills, we need to get China, India and a few others to close down the hundreds they have going and are building hundreds more. Pollution knows no border. What they do in Asia, Africa and etc. effects the whole globe. Killing jobs and throwing billions into climate control does no good unless you get the big polluters to go along. They are building more, not less.

 

Actually, the science is silent on causation.

 

That's a separate issue from the source of climate change.

 

Not doing this might help.

 

How can it be a separate issue from the source of climate change. You said yourself global warming is caused by burning carbon based fuel. Coal is sure carbon based fuel.

 

You need a better understanding of the facts.
How Climate Change Pseudoscience Became Publicly Accepted

". . . . To begin with, the story we hear in the media, that most of the 20th century warming is anthropogenic, that the climate is very sensitive to changes in CO2, and that future warming will therefore be large and will happen very soon, is simply not supported by any direct evidence, only a shaky line of circular reasoning. We “know” that humans must have caused some warming, we see warming, we don’t know of anything else that could have caused the warming, so it adds up.

However, there is no calculation based on first principles that leads to a large warming by CO2, none. Mind you, the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) reports state that doubling CO2 will increase the temperatures by anywhere from 1.5 to 4.5°C, a huge range of uncertainty that dates back to the Charney committee from 1979.

In fact, there is no evidence on any time scale showing that CO2 variations or other changes to the energy budget cause large temperature variations. There is however evidence to the contrary. 10-fold variations in the CO2 over the past half billion years have no correlation whatsoever with temperature; likewise, the climate response to large volcanic eruptions such as Krakatoa.

Both examples lead to the inescapable upper limit of 1.5°C per CO2 doubling—much more modest than the sensitive IPCC climate models predict. However, the large sensitivity of the latter is required in order to explain 20th century warming, or so it is erroneously thought. . . . "

 

The alarmist falsehoods about hurricanes have again been exposed by reference to actual data.
Analysis: Hurricanes Have Not Gotten More Intense, Frequent Over Past 170 Years
By P Gosselin on 10. October 2021

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In the latest climate and energy video by German site Die kalte Sonne, media claims of increasingly stronger and frequent hurricanes are examined closely and reach the conclusion: “Over the past 170 years, hurricanes have not occurred more frequently or gotten more intense.”

In the wake of hurricane Ida, a number of mainstream media outlets, like German ZDF, blared that hurricanes have gotten worse over the recent decades – due to global warming. But that statement has been found to be driven more by alarmism and activism, and not based on data.

New paper by Vecchi et al

Citing a new paper by Vecchi et al, 2021, appearing in the journal Nature, Changes in Atlantic major hurricane frequency since the late-19th century, the authors found: “The homogenized basin-wide HU and MH record does not show strong evidence of a century-scale increase in either MH frequency or MH/HU ratio associated with the century-scale, greenhouse-gas-induced warming of the planet.”

Hurricane recording before satellite observation started in 1972 was based on eye witness observation, meaning a number of hurricanes before 1972 never got recorded. After adjusting, the authors came up with the following chart:



Source: Nature.

The adjusted median frequency for major hurricanes was higher in the 1920s and 1950s than after 2000. . . .

 

Ocean de-oxygenation is yet another manifestation of climate alarmist hype.

Bogus De-Oxygenation Crisis
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Claims that CO2 warming is causing oceans to loose oxygen is thoroughly examined and refuted. In truth, the increase in upwelling and marine productivity, supporting a robust marine ecosystem since…

Claims that CO2 warming is causing oceans to loose oxygen is thoroughly examined and refuted. In truth, the increase in upwelling and marine productivity, supporting a robust marine ecosystem since the Little Ice Age , is responsible for changes in the volume of oxygen minimum zones. The loss of oxygen is due to the increased consumption of oxygen needed to digest and decay the increasing abundance of organic matter. The media’s headlines of a “de-oxygenation crisis” is simply profit seeking click-bait misinformation, while politicians and researchers seeking funding claim they have the solution to the non-existent crisis. . . .

 

You need to go back a few posts to get the context. You said we don't know if climate change is happening naturally or caused by burning fossil fuels. I said we do. The issue of getting other countries to cut back on carbon emissions is a different issue from knowing the source of climate change.

 

What climate change and sea level rise will do to American cities

The space center in Houston surrounded by a moat; the famous beach in Santa Monica, Calif., completely submerged; a professional sports stadium in Washington, D.C., turned into a bathtub — these are just some of the of the startling images of the future in America’s largest cities without action to limit climate change, according to new research by Climate Central, a research and communications nonprofit.

Because of greenhouse gas emissions from burning fossil fuels, average global temperatures have already risen 1.2° Celsius (2.2° Fahrenheit) above the preindustrial era, but as glaciers and polar ice caps melt, there is a decades-long lag for sea level rise. So a team of researchers from Climate Central projected how much the waters will rise if the world reaches only 1.5°C of warming, which is the goal world leaders set forth in the 2015 Paris climate agreement.
https://www.aol.com/news/climate-change-sea-level-rise-182832471.html

 

The only accelerated rise is in the level of alarmist climate hype.
Climate adaptation follies. Part II: scenarios of future sea level rise
Posted on March 8, 2021 by curryja | 61 comments
by Judith Curry How did the state of New Jersey come to adopt sea level rise projections for their adaptation planning that are more than twice as high as the IPCC’s values?

 

There is no sea level rise emergency.

We’re Not Gonna Drown! Analyses Show COASTAL SEA LEVEL RISE Is Only 1.69 mm Per Year!

By P Gosselin on 23. March 2021

UPDATE: Sea level rise near the coasts where people actually live is found to be 1.69 mm/yr. But when crunching the data for the entire ocean, as Willis Eschenbach has shown, a figure of just 1.52 mm/year is computed. Hot shot data analyst Zoe Phin at her site examines sea level rise. There she notes, […]

 

Is sea level rising?
Yes, sea level is rising at an increasing rate.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html

Seas are rising faster than ever
A new satellite will monitor coastal hot spots, where currents amplify global trends
https://www.science.org/content/article/seas-are-rising-faster-ever

 

Yawn.

Climate at a Glance: Sea Level Rise
Global sea level has been rising at a relatively steady pace of approximately one foot per century since at least the mid-1800s. There has been very little recent acceleration in sea level rise.

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Bullet-Point Summary:

• Global sea level has been rising since at least the mid-1800s, and data show there has been only minor recent acceleration.
• NASA satellite instruments, with readings dating back to 1993, show global sea level rising at a pace of merely 1.2 inches per decade.
• Isolated locations with more accelerated sea level rise reflect local conditions, such as tectonic plate movement and withdrawing underground freshwater reserves, rather than climate change.
• Human civilization successfully dealt with sea level rise utilizing nineteenth and twentieth century technologies, and it will be able to adapt to rising sea levels even more successfully in the coming decades by utilizing twenty-first century technologies.

Short Summary: Global sea level has been rising at a relatively steady pace of approximately one foot per century since at least the mid-1800s. There has been very little recent acceleration in sea level rise. Assuming all of the modest increase in sea level rise is due entirely to alleged human-caused global warming, that amounts to an acceleration of only 0.3 inches of sea level rise per decade on top of the preexisting 1.2 inches of sea level rise per decade. . . .

 

The issue for Democrats has nothing to do with any of that. They want to put America out of Business, period.

 

It goes without saying the opposite of your pathetically farcical claim is true.

 

Not a different issue when fighting climate change.

How many coal power plants are there in the world today ...
www.iceagenow.info/how-many-coal-power-plants...

Sep 30, 2019 · Total 3,534. That’s 5,615 projected coal powered plants in just 8 countries. USA has 15 – building 0 more..Total 15. And Democrat politicians with their “green new deal” want to shut down those 15 plants in order to “save” the planet.

 

They wiil make those plants shut down which will raise people's electric bill. Raise taxes and pile on a bunch of regulations, just the thing that drove off over 300,000 manufacturing jobs. Unless you can get the rest of the world to go along with you, you'll do nothing to help pollution and global warming. They don't recognize borders. We are already switching to electric vehicles. GM is going total electric. We are still building solar on our homes and power plants. We are still building wind, solar, water and nuclear. But I don't hear the Left talk of planting trees and science says the best and cheapest way to combat pollution and global warming is planting a billion trees. They will ruin our economy and accomplish nothing. ( Best and cheapest way to fight climate change. (

Growth of city trees can cut air pollution, says report - BBC ...

www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-37813709

Planting trees is a cost-effective way to tackle urban air pollution, which is a growing problem for many cities, a study suggests. ... Growth of city trees can cut air pollution, says report. By ...
.

Global warming: Planting a trillion trees could be the "most ...

www.cbsnews.com/news/planting-a-trillion-trees...

If a tree falls in a forest, will replanting it help curb global warming? Scientists say planting a trillion trees globally could be the single most effective way to fight climate change.

 

No, no, no! Homo sap has no special claim! We are just one more species, and we are not guaranteed to survive forever. Given the right conditions and we are history like the dodo bird.

 

It's going to have to be a multi-pronged attack with a mix of methods and technologies if we are going to succeed in this struggle.
https://kisstheground.com/
One of which is to add more renewables to the energy production mix as legacy energy production by burning fossil fuels is reduced. However, it's already too late to stave off the effects of global warming entirely. We have ignorance, intransigence, and the lobbying power of Big Energy to thank for that.

 

Biden shows plan to address major financial risks posed by climate change

The Biden administration on Friday unveiled a government-wide plan to address the systemic threat climate change poses to all sectors of the economy.

The roadmap is part of the Biden administration’s longer-term agenda to slash domestic greenhouse gas emissions nearly in half by 2030 and transition to a net-zero economy by mid-century while mitigating the impact of climate change on the economy.

Worsening climate-related disasters like heatwaves, drought, floods and wildfires threaten to upend the stability of the global financial system.

This year, extreme weather events affected one in three Americans, according to federal disaster declarations, and interrupted supply chains across the country. In the past five years, extreme weather has cost Americans more than $600 billion in damages, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/biden-unveils-plan-to-address-climate-change-risks-to-economy.html

 

And yet . . .
Net Zero Fail: CBA Shareholders Overwhelmingly Support Fossil Fuel Loans
Eric Worrall
As global fossil fuel demand surges, a shareholder resolution by Commonwealth Bank of Australia to stop fossil fuel lending was overwhelmingly rejected by 86% of shareholders. . . .