Philadelphia police will no longer pull people over for minor traffic stops that disproportionately

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    Philadelphia police will no longer pull people over for minor traffic stops that disproportionately affected Black drivers

    https://news.yahoo.com/philadelphia-police-no-longer-pull-022151987.html

    And there you have it. It's now official in Philadelphia. Because blacks commit a disproportionate amount of offenses, we now pretend that crime isn't crime. "Oh, but it's only minor offenses. Black people can't be expected to obey the law. It's much too taxing on their black culture where laws are made to be broken."

    I'm beginning to wonder why blacks are supposedly against all racism when it seems to go in their favor much of the time.
     
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    Why do people post links without reading the article they're linking?
     
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    I read it just fine. But the impetus for not pulling cars over is because they too often have black drivers. What about that don't you understand?
     
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    The thrust of your post is that they're being treated more leniently - "we now pretend that crime isn't crime" - but they're still being cited, just by mail. So what exactly are you upset about? The outcome is the same.
     
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    Because reading is hard. Regurgitating talking points is easy. Why take time you could spend to rant about how lucky black people are actually reading something that might undermine your point?
     
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    Because many of the secondary offenses here can not be determined unless the officer sees them and that can only be accomplished with a stop for the primary offense. The outcome is not the same.
     
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    Yes, I thought about myself after I posted;. That may well be the case. Maybe it could be accomplished with observation and video camera evidence, I don't know. But your omission of a significant part of the change of policy in the OP created a different impression from the reality.
     
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    Love to see how this affects the death rate on the roads?
     
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    The reality is that the policies are being changed simply because blacks commit offenses out of proportion to their representation in the population. Liberals find it offensive that blacks are pulled over and/or arrested more than whites so they change the laws to see that does not happen while the underlying offenses do not change.
     
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    Equity and Affirmative Action is a ****ing nightmare curse that is destroying us. Instead of admitting the problem white liberals are so guilty of existing they have to pander and destroy the country in the process.

    Maybe we should just give every black kid straight A’s just to make everything “correct”? Whoops. We’re sort of doing that too.
     
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    Actually, I read the article again - the secondary offences they're talking about include "broken taillights and improperly displayed registration stickers" - easily dealt with by police car cameras. So if the reclassified offences are all of this nature, verifiable by camera evidence, is there anything to be upset about?
     
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    Other than what @straight ahead said traffic stops can lead police to discover other crimes being committed.

     
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    If they come into your house they can discover crimes being committed too. You up for that?
     
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    Do you really think that someone is going to review every police car camera footage for every tail light or expired registration? First of all a camera couldn't pick that up but the officer's eyesight can. Next, who do you think is going to sit in front of that videotape for weeks or months picking out broken tail lights and sending summonses in the mail? None of this is going to happen. It's more free crime, like shoplifting.
     
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    Obviously, it's the same officers who would have done the traffic stop that process it. They see the offence, collect video evidence of it, then rather than stopping the perp they send a citation. Really, what is the problem here?
     
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    If they have a warrant or a reasonable belief that a crime is being committed...yes. Even if it means that they find other crimes that I am committing. That is exactly what they are supposed to do. With a traffic stop, even for a minor offense they have a reasonable reason to believe a crime is being committed. That is the only time that they can stop someone. They don't stop people willy nilly for no reason at all. That would be illegal.
     
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    How are you going to prove any of this unless you pull the car over? Are you going to rely on a crappy dash camera as evidence? That's insane.
     
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    What a great group of people right? We literally have to either dumb down the rest of society or make the rest of society less safe in order to make them feel better about themselves. Are they really worth it?
     
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    Know of many people that died because a tag sticker was affixed incorrectly?
     
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    This is the liberal mentality. Prove some are not better than others by making all the lowest of the low.

    The de Blasio administration (in his last few months) is desperately trying to rid NYC schools of the IGC program (Intellectually Gifted Children) that hundreds of thousands have benefited from over the years (including me) because they are comprised of mostly whites and (now) Asians.
     
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    I've no idea about dashcam resolution, but you'll certainly capture a broken taillight. I've done my best here; time to bail out.
     
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    Is a broken taillight reason to think some other crime is being committed?
     
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    I don't know what liberals are thinking, but the message they're sending here is that blacks commit more vehicle infractions than anyone else, they're literally on the verge of creating a stereotype for black drivers.

    But this goes along with other stereotypes the left tried to remove but instead only reinforced. Here are some of them:

    In Oakland they're refusing to release video footage of crimes committed on their trains because they don't want to reinforce a stereotype. That right there tells you who the criminals are.

    In Boston and certain colleges, the police won't release a description of criminals because they don't want to reinforce a stereotype. That right there tells you who the criminals are.

    In Chicago they got rid of or reduced their gang databases because they don't want to reinforce a stereotype. That right there tells you who the gang bangers are.

    These people are doing more damage to the reputations of minorities than they think.

    Speaking of stereotypes, when is the left going to do away with that horrible, horrible stereotype of white supremacy and white privilege? I appreciate the compliment that the left thinks I'm special, but it leads to problems elsewhere.

    BTW, where I live they should probably do away with police check points as they seem to catch more Mexican drunk drivers than white people. The check points gotta go because they're racist.
     
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    Do you know how many criminals are caught because the cop who pulled someone over for a broken taillight saw weapons or drugs in the vehicle? Quite a few. And they didn't come up with this law because it helps ALL people, they came up with it because it helps specific people and that's racist.
     
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    Or we could look at it another way. No longer will anyone be pulled over for minor traffic breaches instead give them a fine through the court system. Saves time and increases city revenue
     

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